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What can be done to save lives?

Posted on | July 9, 2016 | 12 Comments

We all saw horrible events of the last few days and I am wondering, what can be done to save lives.

First, in relation to Dallas, terrible death of 5 police officers, why didn’t the Chief of Dallas police order officers to be wearing riot gear? If they would have been wearing riot gear: bullet proof wests and helmets, they would have been alive.

Secondly, in relation to 2 black men who died in confrontations with police. Why wasn’t a non-letal force used, like taser guns? If officers used taser guns instead of live ammunition, these men would be alive.

In my opinion, we should be looking at practical steps in saving lives and demand our local police departments implement appropriate changes.

What do you think?

From wiki:

Police issue X26 Taser with cartridge installed

A Taser or conducted electrical weapon (CEW)[1] is an electroshock weapon sold by Taser International. It fires two small dart-like electrodes, which stay connected to the main unit by conductors, to deliver electric current to disrupt voluntary control of muscles causing “neuromuscularincapacitation”.[2][3] Someone struck by a Taser experiences stimulation of sensory nerves and motor nerves, resulting in strong involuntary muscle contractions. Tasers do not rely on pain compliance, except when used in “Drive Stun” mode, and are thus preferred by some law enforcement over non-Taser stun guns and other electronic control weapons.[4][5][6][not in citation given]

Tasers were introduced as non-lethal weapons for police to use to subdue fleeing, belligerent, or potentially dangerous people, who would have otherwise been subjected to more lethal weapons such as firearms. A 2009 Police Executive Research Forum study said that officer injuries drop by 76% when a Taser is used.

Comments

12 Responses to “What can be done to save lives?”

  1. CPT Barnett
    July 9th, 2016 @ 1:05 am

    Orly, yes it is terrible when people die a violent death.

    The video of Aldon Sterling shows him fighting the officers and one appears to be thrown off by Sterling. The police knew he had a gun and they were acting in self-defense to save their lives from what I saw.

    It appears that Mr. Castille was a suspect in an armed robbery from just a few days ago and that’s why he was pulled over, not a tail light. From the video the cop told Mr. Castille to not move and he kept moving and Castille said he had a gun. There’s only a split second to make a decision. More information below.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/the-curious-case-of-philando-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/

    Tasers can be in effecitve, in a life or death situation unfortunately. Firearm is far more effective in defending your life. It is feasible that both Sterling and Castille could have shot the cops. Both have criminal records and both had guns.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-police-use-stun-guns-first-lethal-force-second-when-dealing-with-criminals-Why-dont-the-police-use-stun-guns-for-just-about-everything

    It really upsets me when conclusions are drawn about someone’s guilt before all of the facts are in. Judgment should not be rendered like the irresponsible MN governor did to the Hispanic police officer that shot Castille and how the great divider obama has done. How are these officers supposed to have a fair trial? Any BLM member that was on trial would want all of the facts to be seen by the jury before it is determined whether they are guilty or innocent.

  2. CPT Barnett
    July 9th, 2016 @ 1:10 am

    Last comment has mistake should be “tasers can be ineffective”. Good copy below.

    Orly, yes it is terrible when people die a violent death.

    The video of Aldon Sterling shows him fighting the officers and one appears to be thrown off by Sterling. The police knew he had a gun and they were acting in self-defense to save their lives from what I saw.

    It appears that Mr. Castille was a suspect in an armed robbery from just a few days ago and that’s why he was pulled over, not a tail light. From the video the cop told Mr. Castille to not move and he kept moving and Castille said he had a gun. There’s only a split second to make a decision. More information below.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/08/the-curious-case-of-philando-castile-falcon-heights-mn-police-shooting/
    Tasers can be ineffective, in a life or death situation unfortunately. Firearm is far more effective in defending your life.

    It is feasible that both Sterling and Castille could have shot the cops. Both have criminal records and both had guns.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-police-use-stun-guns-first-lethal-force-second-when-dealing-with-criminals-Why-dont-the-police-use-stun-guns-for-just-about-everything
    It really upsets me when conclusions are drawn about someone’s guilt before all of the facts are in. Judgment should not be rendered like the irresponsible MN governor did to the Hispanic police officer that shot Castille and how the great divider obama has done. How are these officers supposed to have a fair trial? Any BLM member that was on trial would want all of the facts to be seen by the jury before it is determined whether they are guilty or innocent.

  3. Judy
    July 9th, 2016 @ 5:56 am

    The minnesota dirtbag was an armed robbery suspect with a gun at his hip, he refused to comply.

  4. Judy
    July 9th, 2016 @ 6:01 am

    The baton rouge dirtbag was waving a gun at people, thus the 9-1-1 call. This was not a taser vs gun call. Police are ready to react in the new world of police killings, suspects with guns that don’t readily comply put their own lives in jeopardy. Why should cops take the slightest chance of not going home at night.

  5. Rich
    July 9th, 2016 @ 6:09 am

    This is democratic party politics. We have to win the election in order to save lives. The democrats completely control our lives. Short of a revolt there is nothing we can do.

  6. js/js
    July 9th, 2016 @ 6:42 am

    Good ideas, but they did not expect a riot. In

    fact, they were just escorting the parade, not

    expecting an ambush. But riot gear will also

    help, must become mandatory for assemblies,

    parades, speeches, conventions, etc., from now

    on. Yes, on taser guns. But may also need

    regular guns and tear gas guns. Big problem.

    We support the police as our protectors from

    this nonsense and chaos. We must.

    Tell em, Danno!!!

  7. W
    July 9th, 2016 @ 6:59 am

    I think it high time we have roving bands of armed citizen militias. Strictly in the hood. Thanks to Obama enabling them, this has become necessary

  8. FTS
    July 9th, 2016 @ 7:20 am

    Police Killings In Dallas Was Carried Out By Homegrown Terrorist Group Allied With Muslim Groups. Obama’s Race Baiting And Pro Muslim Gov Is Setting The Stage For Civil War In America

    By Walid Shoebat on July 8, 2016

    The Person Who Organized The Black Lives Matter Event, In Which Four Cops Were Slaughtered, Was An Islamic Agent

    By Ted on July 8, 2016

    The organizer of the Dallas Black Lives Matter rally, in which four cops were murdered and numerous others injured by trained snipers, is a sodomite pro-Muslim agent. His name is Jeff Hood.

    Also:

    … Some Suspects in Dallas Shooting Attended South Dallas Mosque.

    Santa Monica Observer Homepage

    http://www.smobserved.com

    Also:

    Drudge: FEDS, DALLAS PD WITHHOLD INFO ON SUSPECTS FROM PUBLIC… DEVELOPING…
    Hmmmm?
    -The FBI’s purge of training material relating to Islamic terrorism while expanding ‘domestic’ definitions.
    -White House ordered a cleansing of training materials that Islamic groups deemed offensive.
    -International effort to make criticism of Islam illegal in the USA, supported by Obama and, yep – Hillary Clinton. Google it.
    -CIA Director John Brennan alleged to have converted to Islam
    -Ex Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel alleged to have converted to Islam.

  9. FTS
    July 9th, 2016 @ 7:21 am

    1. The Black Lives Matter leadership and membership would prefer that Barack Obama remain in office.

    2. Significant protests are being orchestrated by the Black Lives Matter leadership for both the Republican and Democratic National Conventions.

    3. Most likely the images are real. Their existence could either be factual as reported above or part of an elaborate hoax to generate support for protests concocted by the Black Lives Matter leadership.

    4. Whether the images are real or not, there are no facts that confirm the participation of the Attorney General.

    5. If the reported discussions and support of the Attorney General are factual, we will find out soon enough.

    Please review my previous two articles on the protests planned for the Republican and Democratic National Conventions for additional information:

    https://www.oathkeepers.org/navyjack-cleveland-a-city-in-the-crosshairs/

    https://www.oathkeepers.org/protests-and-preparations/

    DERAY MCKESSON: “We have a lot of white allies volunteering for Trump’s campaign to pass along information to us before it’s made public so we know when rallies are coming up before they are announced. That way we can plan major disruptions in those cities in advance. We just have to keep our names out of this and let these [white] people do the work for us by pushing how Trump’s racist ways will destroy….”

    JOHNETTA ELZIE: “That’s all those white people are good for in my eyes. I couldn’t imagine even pretending to like that racist ass Trump even to get info on his events. I’ll be glad when we shut his ass down.”

    DERAY MCKESSON: “With the support we have from Mrs. Lynch and the help we’ve got from Sam and others it won’t be hard to cause enough….”

  10. ivan
    July 9th, 2016 @ 10:05 am

    On the news last night it was reported that the officers were actually wearing bullet proof vests, but the high power rifle used to shoot them can go through such vests.

    They were not wearing riot gear with helmets because this was a slow and peaceful walk protest, until this shooter got started.

    It seems if police had shown up with helmets and shields it would have been an invitation to riot.

  11. Trust
    July 10th, 2016 @ 5:51 pm

    Black Panther Cop-Killer Had ‘Devastating’ Amount of Explosives, Says Dallas Police Chief
    Johnson homeAP Photo/LM Otero
    by BOB PRICE
    10 Jul 2016
    470
    Dallas Police Chief David Brown said that Micah X. Johnson, the gunman who killed five Dallas-area police officers Thursday night, had enough explosives in his home to “have devastating effects throughout our city…”
    Brown’s comments came Sunday morning during a CNN interview with Jake Tapper. “We are convinced that this suspect had other plans and thought that what he was doing was righteous and believed that he was going to make law enforcement… and target law enforcement… and make us pay for what he sees as law enforcement’s effort to punish people of color,” Brown told Tapper.

    SIGN UP FOR OUR NEWSLETTER

    “It appears that our search of the suspect’s home in Mesquite leads us to believe, based on evidence of bomb making materials and a journal, that this suspect had been practicing explosive detonations and that the materials were such that it was large enough to have devastating throughout our city and our north Texas area,” Chief Brown explained.

    https://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/07/10/cop-killer-devastating-amount-explosives-says-dallas-police-chief/

  12. Trust
    July 10th, 2016 @ 10:17 pm

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