Was General Ham relieved of duties for trying to help Ambassador Stevens and CIA agents? Did Obama and Panetta commit treason in aiding and abetting Al Queda to slaughter U.S. Ambassador and 3 CIA agents on 9/11 2012?
Posted on | October 28, 2012 | 29 Comments
Was General Ham Relieved for Attempting Benghazi Rescue?
The story gets stranger by the day
“(John) Bolton says someone needs to find out what General Ham was saying on September 11, 2012”
Carter F. Ham (born February 16, 1952) is a United States Army general, who serves as the second and current Commander, U.S. Africa Command. In that position, he has been in command of the initial 2011 military intervention in Libya.
Ham previously served as Commanding General, U.S. Army Europe and Seventh Army from August 28, 2008 to March 8, 2011. Prior to that, he served as Director for Operations (J-3) at the Joint Staff from August 2007 to August 2008 and the Commanding General, U.S. 1st Infantry Division from August 2006 to August 2007. He assumed his current assignment with the Africa Command on March 8, 2011.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
From an internet posting:
I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely.
The story was in reference to General Ham that Panetta referenced in the quote below.
quote:
“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
The story continues that now General Rodriguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africom.
I found this story when I got home after hearing this story.
quote:
“President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced.”
David M. Rodriguez (born c. 1955) is a United States Army general who currently serves as the Commanding General, U.S. Army Forces Command. He previously served as Commander, International Security Assistance Force Joint Command (IJC) and Deputy Commander, U.S. Forces – Afghanistan (USFOR-A) from March 2010 to July 11, 2011. He assumed his current assignment on September 12, 2011.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
As I was typing this I heard John Bolton on Greta say that there are conflicting reports of General Ham’s comments on this tragedy and why a rapid response unit was not deployed.
Bolton says someone needs to find out what Ham was saying on 9/11/12.
https://www.godlikeproductions.
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October 28th, 2012 @ 6:58 am
The Tragic Brutal Murders in Benghazi are starting to look a lot more sinister.
It appears that a lot of behind the scene things were going on surrounding these Brutal Murders.
I hope it’s possible to uncover what really happened to cause those tragic Murders.
It appears a lot of people are lying and changing their stories on what happened in Benghazi as time go by. Why?
October 28th, 2012 @ 8:44 am
This is from a military person. I cannot believe that the media is not really covering this. This is very personal to me, as I served with one of the victims. On the 11th of September, 2012, the United States Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi, Libya came under attack by terrorists. They called out desperately for help. They were denied. Tyrone Woods, Former Navy SEAL that was working out of a CIA S
afe House about a mile away, heard their pleas and repeatedly called higher requesting permission to go and aid the Ambassador and his staff. He was denied. Please keep in mind that this information was available immediately in the White House Situation Room. The attacks began at approximately 4pm Eastern Time. At 5pm Eastern Time, The President met with SECDEF. There is no doubt what they were discussing. Ty Woods (Who I served with in Afghanistan) disobeyed orders and went to the consulate to pull the people out. He rescued approximately 30 peo
ple, however, the Ambassador could not be located, and Sean Smith was already dead. Ty then fought his way back to the CIA Safe house. Meanwhile two Predator Drones were on station overhead, providing direct feeds to the White House and the State Department. Tyrone Woods continued to fight off the terrorist for SIX-SEVEN HOURS!!! Calling for help! He had painted (Using a laser to designate a target) the mortar team which was firing on their location. There were AC 130 Gunships within an hour of the location which are capable of providing devastating and accurate fires. (Have had them support me on multiple occasions). They were not dispatched. In the end Ty Woods and Glen Doherty died alone, manning fighting positions, knowing that their country had abandoned them. There is only ONE person that could have made the call, and that is the President of these United States. Barrack Obama abandoned our people in harm’s way and left them to die. Why? I have no idea, but I wish he would answer the question instead of hiding behind some statements about an investigation. Please pass this along to
October 28th, 2012 @ 10:26 am
If Obama isn’t removed quickly more Americans will be murdered.
October 28th, 2012 @ 11:12 am
Just a thought….but why would this anti-Islamic video that was out months ago conveniently crop up to spur demonstrations in multiple locations on 9/11? Could the video have been put in the right hands to start the demonstrations and create the diversion needed to give credence to the lies about what happened in Benghazi???
Regardless, Americans need answers as to why the military was forced to stand down and allow this travesty to occur.
October 28th, 2012 @ 11:13 am
October 28th, 2012 @ 11:26 am
This seems to be standard Procedure – Send our side into hostile environment like sitting ducks and make sure the enemy has the advantage – ROE. Cases in point;
Vietnam – Restrict their ability to fight.
USS Pueblo – Send it out by itself.
Iraq – Restrict their ability to fight.
Iraq – When troops take the offensive, Persecute them – Haditha.
Border Guards – If they shoot a drug dealer, persecute them, Put them in prison – Druggies go free to testify against them.
USS Cole – Send it in by itself with orders not to fire at hostiles.
Afghanistan – Restrict their ability to fight, give the enemy the advantage.
Benghazi – When the uprising first started, they should have been withdrawn – again, sitting ducks. Heads should roll in all departments of the government.
October 28th, 2012 @ 11:50 am
Larry, besides being a down low drug addict, O-bozo is a complete waste of skin and should be perp walked up a gallows for his crimes against the people and our brave men and women in service to our country!
October 28th, 2012 @ 12:40 pm
I hear the cia is pssd at usurper for letting their people get murdered. Woods deserves highest medal available and barry deserves to be a death row inmate for this treachery. Ty woods was heroic and a great american, i hope the real story on General Ham comes out
October 28th, 2012 @ 12:56 pm
Homeboy well said and I wish.
October 28th, 2012 @ 1:47 pm
Well, Dammit:…we need the (D)’s in America to read this. They need to see that our precedent is a wolf in sheeps clothing! Great post Larry! (Now we know why Dr Orly wants to talk with the parents of Ty woods!) Let’s keep on this and turn the heat up on Door #3!
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The CIA should now SEE the real world. They should finally see that they’ve been helping the wrong side!
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Also, look what’s happening in Florida. A hurricane is coming. That (could) keep people from being able to function with voting??? Was the Haarp Technology used to create this scenario, at this particular time? This could turn out to be like the 2000 election, with all sorts of voting irregularities?!
October 28th, 2012 @ 1:55 pm
And I came across further bad news on the radio in the past couple of days. It was reported that a plane loaded with (ballots) for our troops crashed and the ballots were supposed to have been destroyed?! Do we see how “someone” wants to keep our military from being able to exercise their RIGHT TO VOTE?!
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The news then said that they had to see if they could get the ballots to our guys, so they could vote! How ridiculous! These ballots should’ve been sent in August/Sept., to make sure they arrived and the troops had plenty of time to have them returned for counting! And…
Ty woods is a Hero! I hope his parents find out what happened, so they can bring the necessary legal indictment on “WHOEVER” did this!! I’ve had enough of this treason!
October 28th, 2012 @ 2:03 pm
Yes General Ham was fired for standing up to Obama & Panetta. He had a reactionary force ready to reinforce the compound but was told to stand down. In the days leading up to the attack several Militant Muslim Terrorist types were visiting Obama and Panetta at the White House. There is no doubt Obama was in on the planning and execution and the You Tube video was a ruse to throw people off the trail. Obama thought he could get away with it and now it has blown up in his lap. This General needs to be promoted for standing up to Obama & Panetta who ordered him to stand down so they could execute their planned mission with Al Queda without resistance!
October 28th, 2012 @ 2:21 pm
And to show how evil our (Industrial-military complex is, like Ike told us), I was told by a soldier in Viet Nam that he had Defense Secretary MacNamara come to where they were fighting and he told them to, and I’m paraphraising: “…don’t use so many bullets, cause we need to make this war ‘COST EFFECTIVE’!!!!!!!!!” Do we now see how and who has been in charge of sending our guys off to fight (THEIR) wars?! And we had to “BARROW” to fight that war!! Guess who made $$?! The Fed needs to be fully audited and abolished, ASAP!
October 28th, 2012 @ 2:28 pm
Rod Riddle – I’d be interesting in knowing just WHO those “several Militant Muslim Terrorist types” who visited Obama and Panetta at the White House were. Do you have support for this statement with more Facts?
October 28th, 2012 @ 2:39 pm
And after reading further into this category, I think General Ham had the right idea! He maybe should’ve said that (he didn’t get the email) and just went ahead and attempted the rescue?! That’s what I would’ve done! And that 2nd in command (might) be working with the WH? Personally, if the 2nd in command couldn’t see the Patriotism in Ham’s decision, then, he might be a mole?! Let’s hope Petraus will do something?!
October 28th, 2012 @ 3:10 pm
Hi folks. As a 30 year military vet 1942-1972, I was part of many engagements. I cant recall a more fouled up one such as this uncalled for disaster. And the attempted obvious coverup fantasies being offered, are a insult to our intelligence. In my estimation (and the mothers of those slaughtered), this WAS an ultimate happening. Dimwits cant even get their positions straight. Nine more days folks—get out and vote.
October 28th, 2012 @ 4:34 pm
David B. Munroe, my Nephew works for the Secret Service. He witnessed their visits. WND also has been putting out reports about it. Since your curious David, I bet you weren’t aware that Communist Billionaire Domestic Terrorist George Soros is at the top of the visitation list at the White House. Time to wake up your Liberal friends David. The party is over for all you Obama supporters.
October 28th, 2012 @ 4:49 pm
we now know the military had a unit and was
ready. This was so simple, remember the
first 9/11 and flight #93. Todd Beamer’s final known words, “Are you guys ready? Okay, let’s roll!” All panetta & obama had to do
was be real American’s and say, “Let’s Roll”
As American’s we should, go back to living,
one for all and all for one. Obama does not get it, flight 93 was headed for the capital or probably the white house! These people in power in the white house now, are all cowards.
That have and will continue to die a thousands
deaths in their pea sized, uncaring, un loving
cowardly minds.
God bless all of the real American’s that understand and live by the words, Let’s Roll !
October 28th, 2012 @ 6:01 pm
Ty Woods father on GERALDO, speaking to Mr Obama, looking DIRECTLY into the CAMERA:
“It is better to die a hero, than to live as a coward.”
October 28th, 2012 @ 8:28 pm
From a comment section on Benghazi…..
This election is for We The People to decide ….Not a corrupt press to hide… and corrupt the truth that is Obama.
CALL THE NETWORKS….DEMAND THEY COVER BENGHAZI
MELT THEIR PHONELINES
NBC Phone (212) 664-3720
ABC Phone (212) 456-7777
CBS Phone (212) 975-4321
CNN Phone (404) 827-1500
AFRICOM General Ham made to step down and replaced by Rodriguez within minutes of refusing to “Stand Down” NOT to help fellow Americans
Admiral Gouette carrier strike commander, replaced by Shoemaker… for refusing to Stand Down and NOT Help Americans in need
We are the ROLLING THUNDER…let’s make ourselves heard…melt the phones in Washington DC too….Those who died for us deserve our voice.
October 28th, 2012 @ 9:46 pm
I think the video demonstrations were planned to cover for the attack but did not occur as planned..which totally caused a failure to execute the plan with the desired results…
But the Admin tried to stick to the story but became desperate to reorganize….
The apology video was probably just a second attempt to call up the demonstration to justify their story…
October 28th, 2012 @ 11:45 pm
I know certain personnel within the W.H. and have been informed Stevens received his appointment due to being one of B.H.O.’s confidential homosexual lovers. The ambush was not stopped because B.H.O. feared Stevens would publicly “out” him as a homosexual, plus Stevens was in charge of B.H.O.’s illegal operations which armed Islamic insurgents in exchange for large quantities of heroin….Everyone I know at CIA is extremely unhappy and several who possess first hand knowledge of the illegal covert operations are likely to come forward and publicly speak the truth, thereby placing B.H.O. in the untenable position of being charged for several major felonies, including high treason…
October 28th, 2012 @ 11:52 pm
”Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” – ALBERT EINSTEIN-
October 29th, 2012 @ 12:03 am
The appropriate committees in the US House and Senate should subpoena Gen. Ham,Petraeus etc.and any other person involved in this disaster as soon as possible and find out what the hell is going on!!!!!!
October 30th, 2012 @ 2:37 pm
I don’t know where Gen. Panetta got his military training from or that he had been other than a Professional Posterior Nuzzler/office boy his entire adult life.
October 30th, 2012 @ 2:38 pm
I don’t know where Gen. Panetta got his military training from or that he had been other than a Professional Posterior Nuzzler/office boy his entire adult life.
October 30th, 2012 @ 2:38 pm
I don’t know where Gen. Panetta got his military training from or that he had been other than a Professional Posterior Nuzzler/office boy his entire adult life.
October 30th, 2012 @ 2:38 pm
I don’t know where Gen. Panetta got his military training from or that he had been other than a Professional Posterior Nuzzler/office boy his entire adult life.