My Exclusive interview with Dr. Jerome Corsi from World Net Daily
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Obama’s Social Security number goes to court
Complaint in federal district seeks evidence of suspected fraud
Posted: February 07, 2011
8:55 pm Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
An attorney who has aggressively pursued the release of President Obama’s Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate filed a complaint in federal court yesterday to force the release of Obama’s Social Security files.
“I’m not asking for Obama’s Social Security number,” Attorney Orly Taitz told WND, acknowledging that the Social Security Administration will not release the number of a living person. “I want related information, including information about deceased individuals that will help us prove whether or not Obama has committed Social Security fraud.”
Taitz filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to force the Social Security Administration to respond to her Freedom of Information Act request seeking information on Obama’s Social Security number.
At the heart of Taitz’s complaint to the court is the suspicion that Obama has engaged in Social Security fraud by using a number initially issued to another person.
Taitz contends the Social Security number Obama has used the most often since around 1980 was, according to Lexis Nexis and Choice Point, initially assigned to an elderly individual born in 1890 who resided in Connecticut.
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In her complaint, Taitz claims that Obama is linked in national databases to some 39 different Social Security numbers, including one allegedly issued in1976 or 1977 to a person born in 1890 who was living in Connecticut at the time of the Social Security application.
“In and around 1976-1977 due to new Social Security requirements multiple elderly individuals, particularly women, who were housewives and never worked before, applied to obtain Social Security Benefits,” Taitz explained in her complaint.
“Therefore the date of birth of 1890 originally connected to [Obama’s Social Security number] was consistent with many other examples of elderly individuals, born between 1890-1915, applying for Social Security cards for the first time between 1976-1977.”
This is Taitz’s second FOIA request to the Social Security Administration, seeking to obtain Obama’s Social Security records. An earlier request was denied May 18, 2010, on privacy grounds.
The D.C. court denied Taitz’s appeal to the previous FOIA filing on the grounds that the appeal was filed prior to the final determination by the Social Security Administration.
On Oct. 4, 2010, Taitz filed a second FOIA request with the Social Security Administration, refining her request in an attempt to avoid the privacy concerns that determined the agency’s previous denial.
So far, the Social Security Administration has not responded to Taitz’s second FOIA request, despite six certified letters she has sent the agency since Oct. 4, 2010.
To buttress her arguments, Taitz submitted to the federal court affidavits signed by private investigators Susan Daniels and John Sampson.
Both Daniels and Sampson state that in the 1980s, Obama assumed as his own a Social Security number that had been applied for in Connecticut and was issued by the Social Security Administration between the years 1976 and 1977
Sampson, a retired senior investigator with the Department of Homeland Security, provided in his affidavit an expert opinion that there is no reasonable explanation for a person residing in Hawaii to get a Social Security number issued in Connecticut.
“The affidavits of the private investigators indicates Obama is using a fraudulent Social Security number,” she said, “so I am requesting information from the Social Security Administration that would help us track down the Connecticut-issued number Obama is using as well as the multiple Social Security numbers that show up for Obama in the private investigator databases.”
Daniels, in a previous interview with WND, said the Social Security Administration never re-issues Social Security numbers.
“A person who wants to hide their true identity often picks up the Social Security number of a deceased person, thinking that nobody would ever look into it,” Daniels said. “I think it was sometime in the 1980s that Obama decided to hide who he really is.”
The Social Security website confirms the first three digits in Obama’s Social Security number are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.
WND previously reported that Obama worked as a teenager in Hawaii at a Baskin-Robbins ice cream store in the Makiki neighborhood on Oahu, which USA Today documented still was in operation one year after Obama’s inauguration.
A current photograph of the Baskin-Robbins can be seen on the website “Obama’s Hawaii Neighborhood.”
WND can find no record of any Social Security number Obama used working at the Baskin-Robbins.
Politifact.com, a website typically supportive of Obama, claims he worked at the Baskin-Robbins in 1975 or 1976, prior to the issuance of the Connecticut Social Security number he is currently using.
There is nothing in the public record that would document Obama ever lived in or even visited Connecticut during his high school years.
There also is no indication in the limited background documentation released by the Obama 2008 presidential campaign or by the White House to establish that Obama ever lived in Connecticut.
Nor is there any suggestion in Obama’s autobiography, “Dreams from My Father,” that he ever had a Connecticut address.
Also, nothing can be found in the public record that indicates the president visited Connecticut during his high school years.
Barack Obama Sr. lived in Hawaii from 1959 until June 1962, when he moved to Massachusetts to attend Harvard University; nothing can be found in the public record that indicates Barack Obama Sr. ever had a Connecticut address.
WND has further confirmed that the Social Security number in question links to Obama in the online records maintained by the Selective Service system. Inserting the Social Security number Obama is currently using, his birth date and his last name produced a valid Selective Service number identified with Obama.
Here is a screen capture that shows the Selective Service cross-verification of the Social Security Number that President Obama is currently using:
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WND has also reported that the Social Security Administration has decided to randomize all future Social Security numbers issued, beginning on or about June 25, 2011, in a move that will eliminate state-specific assignment of the Social Security numbers..
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February 8th, 2011 @ 4:43 am
Jerome Corsi, Doctor of Sophistic Deception – the shame of Harvard!
February 8th, 2011 @ 6:40 am
Porta John..
Steve Dunham, usurper technician, affirmative action shame, Harvard.
February 8th, 2011 @ 7:41 am
Is there a social security number for Steve Dunham??
February 8th, 2011 @ 7:52 am
AN EXCELLENT MUST READ ARTICLE!!
Reprinted By Permission From:
The Post & Email, Inc.
http://www.ThePostEmail.com
“AMERICA’S 2011 ALERT AND NATIONAL CALL TO ACTION – HOW WILL TURMOIL IN THE MIDDLE EAST BE RESOLVED?”
By Maj. Gen. Paul E. Vallely (Ret.)
Published On Feb. 6, 2011
Excerpt:
“All branches of the federal government have increasingly acted against the best interests of the states and the people, reaching farther and farther beyond the scope and authority granted them in the U.S. Constitution and today, the federal government functions with utter disdain for states’ and individual rights.
With no venue available in which to demand redress of grievances in the legislative, executive or judicial branches of the federal government at present, we have determined that the people of each state, via their elected state officials, must take broad but specific state measures to force the federal government to live within the confines of the U.S. Constitution, for the sake of the sovereign states and the citizens thereof.
In accordance with the U.S. Constitution, Congress and the federal government is denied the power to establish laws within the state which are repugnant and obtrusive to the U.S. Constitution, the State Constitution, state law and the citizens of the state. The Federal Government is restrained and confined in authority by the eighteen (18) items as set forth in Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution. We must make it a local and State imperative and movement….of the People…by the People… and For the People.
“We, the People” have had enough. Enough is Enough. The Obama White House and identifiable Members of Congress are now on a treasonous death march and are bankrupting the country beyond expectations. We have watched them violate their sacred oath of office. “We, the People” cannot necessarily wait for the next round of elections. It is now that many of these public servants (and you know who they are) must put the people and country interests above self-interest by resigning immediately.
A civil uprising is still not out of the question as “pain” grips the country more each day. We are in a battle for the survival of the United States. This means raising your voice now to your neighbors, family, co-workers, and friends. Grass roots efforts have begun; it is now time to put this effort into overdrive. America, stand tall together and we will weather the storm but we must act now!”
Paul E. Vallely MG, US Army (Ret)
Chairman – Stand Up America
Paul Vallely is Chairman of Stand Up America
E-Mail: standupamericaceo@gmail.com
http://www.standupamericaus.com
http://www.veterandefenders.org
http://www.soldiersmemorialfund.org
http://www.patriotsunion.org
Read The Excellent & Full Article Here:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/02/06/america%e2%80%99s-2011-alert-and-national-call-to-action/
February 8th, 2011 @ 7:56 am
Redd, you’re making less and less sense lately. Perhaps you should have your medication levels adjusted? Just a thought.
February 8th, 2011 @ 8:05 am
A MUST READ EXCELLENT ARTICLE!!
“… OBAMA IS A USURPER, OUST HIM! – SAMPLE LETTER FROM CREATOR OF “CYC” CAMPAIGN FOR READERS TO USE”
By Gracie Sweet
Published On February 1, 2011
Excerpt:
“It is a national disgrace that our Congress KNOWS there is a problem with Obama, who had an African father, thus disqualifying him from the presidency, because of the requirement that one “SHALL BE” a “natural born citizen”. There is no doubt that that means having TWO American parents, not one. Do not be cowed by any attempt at a charge of a “witch hunt” from either the Dems or your own party. You have the power, Congressman, to subpoena Obama’s records and make the determination that Americans have been waiting 2-1/2 yrs for. For too long the Democrats have steam-rolled the Republicans, who in trying to retain civil discourse, have instead capitulated to the Democrats race-baiting and every other form of intimidation that they could level at the Republicans.
It is high-time the Republicans, and you especially because of the position of trust and authority you are in, investigate the People’s claims that Barack Hussein Obama is NOT ELIGIBLE UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT! We are never going to give up getting to the truth, and if our elected officials fail us on this most critical issue, God help you, because we will do everything in our power to vote you out and Tea Party candidates in.
We are sick and tired of RINOs who “go along to get along”. Investigate Obama, and the sooner the better, because what is happening in the Middle East could very well happen here in this country. All of our elected officials have turned a deaf ear to us for going on three years now and that has to end. You have the power, Congressman; use it!”
Read More Here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/02/01/memo-to-congress-if-obama-is-a-usurper-oust-him/
An Excellent Comment From:
“CDR Kerchner says:
Tuesday, February 1, 2011 at 7:45 PM
Good letter but to make it explicitly clear in this sentence a couple more adjectives could have been added. It is not that his father was African but that his father was a foreign national and not a U.S. Citizen, not even an immigrant to the USA. So in this sentence if others write change it …
From: there is a problem with Obama, who had an African father, thus disqualifying him from the presidency
To: there is a problem with Obama, who had a non-U.S. Citizen, foreign national African father, thus disqualifying him from the presidency
Because these people in Congress weave and dodge on the words in your letters you have to make it explicitly clear to these people in Congress what the main issue is … i.e., that Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen, not even an immigrant, nor even a permanent resident in the USA. He was a foreign national sojourning here for a few years attending college. The child of a foreign national father is NOT a natural born Citizen of the United States to constitutional standards.
https://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-maybe-citizen-of-united-states.html
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“Robert Laity says:
Wednesday, February 2, 2011 at 6:16 AM
This issue has a long time ago passed the “If” level. OBAMA IS A USURPER.”
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February 8th, 2011 @ 8:23 am
porta john
you have no sense, perhaps you should acquire some.
February 8th, 2011 @ 8:33 am
FROM: THE POST & EMAIL, INC.
“THE POST & EMAIL ANNOUNCES NEW CITIZEN-DRIVEN ELIGIBILITY INITIATIVE – READER BEGINS “CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMEN” (CYC) CAMPAIGN”
By Gracie Sweet
Published On Jan. 17, 2011
Read More Here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/17/the-post-email-announces-new-citizen-driven-eligibility-initiative/
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“FIRST REPORT ON CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMEN CAMPAIGN – READER WHO BEGAN CAMPAIGN ISSUES FIRST TALLY”
By Sharon Rondeau
Published On Jan. 23, 2011
Read More Here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/01/23/first-report-on-contact-your-congressmen-campaign/
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February 8th, 2011 @ 8:48 am
A MUST READ EXCELLENT ARTICLE!!
“[…] OBAMA IS A USURPER, OUST HIM! – SAMPLE LETTER FROM CREATOR OF “CYC” CAMPAIGN FOR READERS TO USE”
By Gracie Sweet
Published On February 1, 2011
Excerpt:
“It is a national disgrace that our Congress KNOWS there is a problem with Obama, who had an African father, thus disqualifying him from the presidency, because of the requirement that one “SHALL BE” a “natural born citizen”. There is no doubt that that means having TWO American parents, not one. Do not be cowed by any attempt at a charge of a “witch hunt” from either the Dems or your own party.
You have the power, Congress[people], to subpoena Obama’s records and make the determination that Americans have been waiting 2-1/2 yrs for. For too long the Democrats have steam-rolled the Republicans, who in trying to retain civil discourse, have instead capitulated to the Democrats race-baiting and every other form of intimidation that they could level at the Republicans.
It is high-time the Republicans, and you especially because of the position of trust and authority you are in, investigate the People’s claims that Barack Hussein Obama is NOT ELIGIBLE UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION TO SERVE AS PRESIDENT! We are never going to give up getting to the truth, and if our elected officials fail us on this most critical issue, God help you, because we will do everything in our power to vote you out and Tea Party candidates in. We are sick and tired of RINOs who “go along to get along”.
Investigate Obama, and the sooner the better, because what is happening in the Middle East could very well happen here in this country. All of our elected officials have turned a deaf ear to us for going on three years now and that has to end. YOU HAVE THE POWER, CONGRESS[PEOPLE]!!! USE IT!!!”
Read More Here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/02/01/memo-to-congress-if-obama-is-a-usurper-oust-him/
An Excellent Comment From:
“CDR Kerchner says:
Tuesday, February 1, 2011 at 7:45 PM
Good letter but to make it explicitly clear in this sentence a couple more adjectives could have been added. It is not that his father was African but that his father was a foreign national and not a U.S. Citizen, not even an immigrant to the USA. So in this sentence if others write change it …
From: there is a problem with Obama, who had an African father, thus disqualifying him from the presidency.
To: there is a problem with Obama, who had a non-U.S. Citizen, foreign national African father, thus disqualifying him from the presidency.
Because these people in Congress weave and dodge on the words in your letters you have to make it explicitly clear to these people in Congress what the main issue is … i.e., that Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen, not even an immigrant, nor even a permanent resident in the USA. He was a foreign national sojourning here for a few years attending college. The child of a foreign national father is NOT a natural born Citizen of the United States to constitutional standards.
https://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-maybe-citizen-of-united-states.html
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“Robert Laity says:
Wednesday, February 2, 2011 at 6:16 AM
This issue has a long time ago passed the “If” level. OBAMA IS A USURPER.”
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February 8th, 2011 @ 9:07 am
An Excellent Comment From:
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/02/08/blagojevich-claims-emanuel-john-harris-conversation-tape-missing-rod-blagojevich-attorneys-file-pretrial-motion/#comment-181903
“Jonah | February 8, 2011 at 5:57 am |
Iowa Republican Focus Group: Obama Is a Muslim (Video)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, February 7, 2011, 10:37 PM
An Iowa Republican focus group ripped Obama over his handling of the Egyptian crisis. Nearly half of the focus group members believed that Obama was acting against the interests of the United States because he was a Muslim. The other half believed he was a committed liberal.”
They all agreed he was a disaster.
https://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/02/iowa-republican-caucus-voters-obama-is-a-muslim-video/
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February 8th, 2011 @ 10:31 am
Orly,
Could you do us all a favor and ban John and Politiblabber. They’re nothing more than trolling propaganda mouthpieces. A buzzing about the ear like an annoying gnat you can’t locate because it’s too miniscule and unimportant, but annoying nonetheless.
As far as Mr. Corsi goes, in my experience he’s a stand-up guy. I recall that he posted the Obama Congressional cheat sheet on WND without crediting Mario Apuzzo as the source. I wrote him to inform him of the error and it was corrected the next day in his WND article. Try getting that kind of result and integrity from the apparatchiks at AP or Reuters.
February 8th, 2011 @ 12:50 pm
Porky, thanks for the vote of confidence. The savage irony of being defamed as a propagandist by someone who thinks an inveterate paid liar such as Jerome Corsi (or Mario Apuzzo – six of one, as they say) is a “stand-up guy” is precious.
Why not go and re-read some of Starla’s postings? I’m sure hearing other people say what you think you already know is much more comforting than hearing the truth.
February 8th, 2011 @ 1:16 pm
I remember when Dr. Corsi went over to Kenya to get at the truth about Obama, and was seized by the military there for his efforts. He could have very well been injured or worse, and John has the Gall to call him petty little names.
February 8th, 2011 @ 4:07 pm
Hey, John! You don’t happen to be related to John Kerry, are you? You know…the slick politician that Corsi wrote that book about. Remember that? What was the title? Oh! I remember! Unfit for Command. Otherwise, why would you have such disdain for an honest, hard-working journalist whom everyone else admires? We could well understand your problem if there is a relationship. Other than that, you don’t make much sense.
February 8th, 2011 @ 8:44 pm
Queeny – I am related to John Kerry as a brother in arms, and Mr Corsi’s fact-free hack job on a highly decorated war hero was an attack on us all. FYI, little Jerome is not a member of the press. He is a mercenary liar who will say anything that his corporate assmasters command. You probably think that “everyone else admires” your birther heros, too. More’s the pity, really.
BTW, your use of the third person is really creepy.
February 8th, 2011 @ 10:26 pm
LOL! Poor jonnie…can’t get off the pot, cause he’s still takin’ a “dump!!!” LOL! Talk about being “full of it!”
Davey Crockett…
February 9th, 2011 @ 3:40 am
Hippy, Mr Corsi was detained in Kenya because he didn’t bother to get an entry visa. One might assume this is just because he isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, but I assume it was a calculated move for publicity. Jerome likes attention, and he doesn’t care if it’s good attention or bad attention.
February 9th, 2011 @ 6:45 am
how do you know that Dr. Corsi didn’t get an entrance visa?
February 9th, 2011 @ 7:46 am
To be clear, he didn’t have the right type of visa. He entered Kemya on a tourist visa, but when it became clear he was on a book promotion visit the Kenyan officials felt he should have a work visa. This was reported by every major news source at the time.
“His papers were not in order,” Immigration Ministry spokesman Elias Njeru said. “He came in with a tourist visa but had to do business. So his papers were on the wrong side of the law.”
https://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1847965,00.html
https://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/08/world/fg-kenyaobama8
February 9th, 2011 @ 8:41 am
John just pulls things(other than his head)out of his Rectum. Right John?
February 9th, 2011 @ 9:45 am
John…John…John…You need to do some fact finding of your own about the “other” John, who incidentally, was not a “highly” decorated hero but a treasonous traitor in the same category as Jane Fonda. He should have been locked up or hung for his lies.
February 9th, 2011 @ 4:13 pm
John, That was alot of crap fed to you by the liberal media. They had to think of a reason to detain him because he was going to find Obama’s bc and roots. The media did not want that to get out.
Orly, don’t ban him, we are actually getting information from him. You see, the more they dispute what we say, then that is how we know we are getting hot and we are right. They have to dispute the truth to keep it from getting out. Let them talk all they want.
February 9th, 2011 @ 4:23 pm
Obamacare now in effect:
https://mail.conservativecontacts.com/hostedemail/email.htm?h=d32f3cbcc968a0c54ebd906d73ac8cc8&CID=7978546457&ch=9030DC257011F19949B17307F79FF1CA
February 9th, 2011 @ 4:41 pm
“Porta john.” I kind of like that nickname, Redd. It fits him very well.
February 9th, 2011 @ 4:45 pm
Read this & decide if he is right ——scary!
What if he’s right?
I hope you find the time to read this with an open mind. It’s interesting. Please read it with the open mind rather than immediately breaking it down into left or right, but rather look at it from the neutral viewpoint of right or wrong. It’s like the line below says, “what if he is right?”
Take the three minutes to read this. Maybe he is wrong, but what if he’s right?
David Kaiser is a respected historian whose published works have covered a broad range of topics, from European Warfare to American League Baseball. Born in 1947, the son of a diplomat, Kaiser spent his childhood in three capital cities: Washington D.C. , Albany , New York , and Dakar , Senegal .. He attended Harvard University , graduating there in 1969 with a B.A. In history. He then spent several years more at Harvard, gaining a PhD in history, which he obtained in 1976.. He served in the Army Reserve from 1970 to 1976.
He is a professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United States Naval War College . He has previously taught at Carnegie Mellon, Williams College and Harvard University . Kaiser’s latest book, The Road to Dallas, about the Kennedy assassination, was just published by Harvard University Press.
Dr. David Kaiser
History Unfolding
I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus..
Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.
We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?
We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has “loaned” two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of “we the people,” who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.
We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy… Why?
We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?
We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?
Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) – the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten…And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.
And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska .. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)
Mr. Obama’s winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?
I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.
This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.
And that is only the beginning..
As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s In those times, the “savior” was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative “losers” read it right now.
And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his “brown shirts” would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did – regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand – the Great Depression. Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,
How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He did it with a compliant media – did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and …. . … change. And the people surely got what they voted for.
If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It’s all there in the history books.
So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lordsin England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.
Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course.. The road to Hell is paved with them.
As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..
I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.
February 9th, 2011 @ 6:13 pm
What is the truth, John? Take a couple of paragraphs and give us your rendition of the truth. I will sip on my Old Forester-based Manhattan while you enlighten us.
BTW, our courts, including SCOTUS, have the perpetual job of pulling the truth from the mouths of witnesses, from examining tangible evidence presented to the courts, from demonstrations by video or audio recorders and from the final speeches, called “argument” of both counsel. Do we then believe the truth so derived? We hope, my man, we hope.
February 9th, 2011 @ 7:13 pm
Is Nazism Still Alive?
https://www.thetrumpet.com/?q=5503.3821.0.0
February 10th, 2011 @ 10:26 am
“Porky, thanks for the vote of confidence.”
–What, that you’re a class A d-bag? I was trying to be subtle about it, but I guess you can’t take a hint.
And you and John “Winter Soldier” Kerry deserve each other along with your other ‘brother-in-arms’ Benedict Arnold. For your malignant service here, perhaps Obama will reward you with the assignment of overseeing West Point.
February 10th, 2011 @ 12:30 pm
@Starla,
I appreciate your concern and passion to get the information out to people, but may I suggest, if you wish to refer people to anther web site, simply post the link and the title and a short excerpt or comment. If I want to read articles on Post&Email I will go there. If I want to read comments on Orly’s blog I go here. Now I have to scroll through several long articles from another site to read comments here.
February 11th, 2011 @ 8:56 am
Re: Alec
February 10th, 2011 @ 12:30 pm
I often post short titles & links only. Alex, please post what you want. Sometimes just posting a title and a link is NOT enough, in my humble opinion.
Alex, I will post what I desire with the proper citings & references. If you have to scroll a down little more to see the comments, is this too hard for you to do & to handle?!
February 11th, 2011 @ 8:59 am
Re: Alec
February 10th, 2011 @ 12:30 pm
I often post short titles & links only. Alex, please post what you want. Sometimes just posting a title & a link is NOT enough, in my humble opinion.
Alex, I will post what I desire with the proper citings & references. If you have to scroll down a little more to see the comments, is this too hard for you to do & to handle?!
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