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Posted on | June 9, 2009 | 8 Comments
Selective Service Update: Another FOIA Request
As a follow-up to my recent Selective Service update posting, I received the following information from a concerned citizen by the name of William along with further analysis from a Plaintiff in some of the eligibility lawsuits.
This link pulls up a snapshot of the FOIA letter that William received on April 1, 2009. He relayed the following information to me regarding his query with the Selective Service:
I am a computer network specialist free lance here in … CA.
I have been following the BHO Birth Cert issue and cases for a year.
I don’t necessarily believe that the SS Form is a forgery, nor do I necessarily believe that BHO is of foreign birth. The fact is we simply don’t know anything because no one is allowed to have complete access to any documents of substance for examination.
I am investigating this [the SS issue] and others because I am a believer in government accountability and open access. Further, on something as simple as a birth certificate, or rather, proof of native or natural born status, should be a simple matter, but it is not.
It is quite possible that BHO was born in HI; just as it is possible that he was born in Kenya. It is also possible that, even if BHO proves that he is natural born, that he attended Occidental college under an Indonesian passport while also having registered for Selective Service as an American citizen.
The bottom line is– what is the truth and how do we find it?
When I first heard about Coffman’s internet results in succeeding in acquiring a FOIA copy of the SS Form 1 for BHO, I was skeptical [as I always am]– so I requested my own copy of the form via FOIA from the same Selective Service source, Mr Flahavan.
As to questions of forgery, who knows? I am not a document expert, and no one has access to any original docs. I just find it curious that there is an effort to assert with certainty [ by Mr Flahavan] that “Mr. Obama did indeed register”–
Well, how does he know that? And of course, he doesn’t know. He doesn’t have any personal knowledge of the fact. All he knows is based on what information he is able to extract fro the database(s) or records he can copy. For him to assert knowledge of certainty is foolish or calculated. It would have been well better for him to simply comply with the FOIA and remain silent.
But, there it is. And what I have just told you is all I know about this matter.
On another but related topic:
Factcheck and other pro-Obama, “anti-birther” sites were claiming that the HI statute 338.71.8, having been enacted in 1971, proved that a 1961 Certificate could not have been registered in HI with Records by a non-birth-event registration process and therefore the Certification information was derived from an actual birth certificate, thus claims to the contrary would be false.
I was tasked by Mario Apuzzo [Kerchner v Obama] to research the existence of HI Territorial Act 96 passed into law in 1911, which I was able to find.
Thus 338.71.8 is supported by Act96 and there was a procedure available at the time [1961] for Stanley Ann Dnham to register BHO without witnesses or a standard live-birth certificate. [brackets original]
The Act to which William refers can be found here:
HI ACT 96
This book has been digitized by Google and is available for download here-
https://books.google.com/books?id=0PjvG3BkcBACI am placing a copy of this document a free ftp download website for download as a backup:
https://www.4shared.com/file/107920470/13beb66e/Laws_of_the_Territory_of_Hawaii_Passed_b.html
Just follow the free download buttons. Avoid downloading any software.
I will amend my article and ask volunteers to see if they can contribute anything else.
This link pulls up the PDF that compares the Coffman and William Selective Service scans. The following commentary from one of the eligibility lawsuit Plaintiffs will help explain inconsistencies that they see:
[William]’s copy of “Obama’s Regsitration card “appear to be identical with the year being “08″ not “80″. There is no missing “8″ at the front of the number that the scanner “missed”. It’s an utter lie.
Comparing Coffman’s and [William]’s print outs.
1. The Last Action Dates are different. Why would they be?
2. Registration Date is missing from Coffman’s print out.
3. Permanent address is missing from [William]’s
4. The DLN’s are different and should be the same and reflect the DLN stamp number at the upper right hand corner of the form.Why is the stamp date, one day before Obama supposedly signed the Registration Form??? Government agencies stamp forms after receiving them, not before.
Coffman knows what he is talking about. He used to work for ICE and the Federal Government for 30 years.
Don’t know if you caught this or not from Orly’s site and Dossiers, but the Selective Service Head is getting investigated for sexual harrasment and wrongful termination of a former woman employee. I’m sure that Obama set it up to cover for him, if he would ignore his forgery.
You can’t get around wrong forms for the dates the forms were supposedly completed. You also can’t get around the wrong stamps used.
See the following links regarding the eligibility saga:
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June 9th, 2009 @ 8:22 am
This is very interesting and informative. I never gave much thought abou tthe time stamp, and I used to work in an area where I had to submit court reports/and petitions , and the docments wree always stamped upon delivery.Never before delivery.
June 9th, 2009 @ 11:57 am
Just curious.
Has anyone tried to see the SS documents for GW Bush, GHW Bush, Wm J Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore, John McCain, your father, your friends, etc? You get the picture. What’s the normal government response to inquiries?
June 9th, 2009 @ 12:45 pm
Orly,
did you see this affadavit BHO signed claiming that he is a natual born citizen?
https://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/obama-not-eligible-obama-not-natural-born-citizen-obama-signature-on-arizona-candidate-nomination-paper-moniquemonicat-blog-did-obama-commit-fraud-did-obama-lie/
scroll down a bit.
thers proof he lied in writing!
June 9th, 2009 @ 4:56 pm
Can these two men file a lawsuit againt Obama based on the fact that their respective FOIA requests yielded two different documents? They could charge SOMEONE with fraud.
It does sound as if the guy in charge of the Selective Service covered for Obama by creating the documents, although he didn’t “cover” his tracks well. Or else he had someone use Photoshop who wasn’t careful.
This conspiracy involves the entire government at this point. Unless the Supreme Court or another court is willing to look further, they are showing us that they prefer to keep their heads in the sand (or somewhere else) and ignore the criminal actions of Obama and his band of Chicago thugs.
June 9th, 2009 @ 5:00 pm
at this point every citizen should be able to file a law suit against Obama, the point is that there are only a couple of attorneys that are filing those law suits. Others are either scared or want a fortune
June 9th, 2009 @ 7:47 pm
Orly, I read your blog every night
hoping to get some good news like obama was caught red handed and is on his way to Alcatraz for a 1000 years & McCain & Palin will take over because barry soetoro was born
in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and isn’t qualified but McCain is.
(this might be wishful thinking but I wish it could come true)During obama campaigning he made a remark that really hurt me he was walking across the stage and said (you know the American people are stupid)I figured that his teleprompter wasn’t loaded or he thought the mics were turned off.Michael Savage has more guts than any of the other talk show hosts,I would like to see him fighting obama’s BC issue if he doesn’t know he would contact someone that does.
Orly keep up the good work and I hope you can show obama how stupid we are.
George
June 9th, 2009 @ 11:09 pm
The Hawaiian statute cited is actually 338-17.8 . . . not 71.8.
17.8 is the registration of an out-of-state birth.
I feel 338-5 is more likely, sans licensed birth documentation. It is called the compulsory registration.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0005.htm
I made a quick trip to the law library and bee-lined to the State Statute stacks and grabbed the Hawaii statutes . . . 338-5 was applicable in 1961.
Please confirm my interpretation of the statute’s annotations.
June 10th, 2009 @ 12:53 pm
“George says:
June 9, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Orly, I read your blog every night hoping to get some good news like obama was caught red handed and is on his way to Alcatraz for a 1000 years & McCain & Palin will take over because barry soetoro was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and isn’t qualified but McCain is.”
LOL!
That would be great!
If only we lived in a world of perfect justice!
Let us not forget his shady pals like that moron Nancy Pelosi whose hands are dirty and needs to serve some time, too.