Professioal pilot with a float plane rating: Caravan cesssna can safely land on water and it can be recovered. Does anyone have the map of the area? they were 1 and a half minute in the air, half a mile from shore, how deep was the water? why is NTSB saying that the plane will not be recovered, while there were recoveries from 500 feet depth?
Posted on | December 14, 2013 | 16 Comments
Dr. Orly,
Here is an observation from a Navy SEAL + Professional Pilot that has a Float Plane rating. The Caravan Aircraft Loretta Fuddy crashed in had a large cargo pod attached to the aircraft’s belly. From my observation of this coupled with the Caravan’s ability to fly at slow speeds. This aircraft could be intentionally safely be landed on water. The pod would essentially be a large water ski.
The aircraft should be able to be recovered, with a forensic engine inspection it could be determined easily if the engine failed or was shut down.
They said the aircraft could not be recovered which is BS. The Danes recovered a Russian Submarine in 500+ feet of water not too far from HI.
God Bless America,
Harry Butler
Dr. Orly,
Will do!!!
An additional thought on the Fuddy crash, the aircraft flight path may have been recorded. It looks to me the flight path the aircraft would have normally flown to their destination was not followed. It’s hard to tell on a short flight such as that but a right turn out instead of a left could mean a lot in the investigation. Especially if the aircraft engine was intentionally shut down + did not fail.
Additionally the Cockpit Data + Voice Recorders(Black Boxes) if the Caravan has them will have that information.
Sharon Rondeau says the Fuddy crash could be the crime of the Century. You know more about this than anyone + are not afraid to pursue the truth.
Keep Up Your Great Work, This Nation Owes You So Much,
Harry Butler
Gulfstream Captain
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16 Responses to “Professioal pilot with a float plane rating: Caravan cesssna can safely land on water and it can be recovered. Does anyone have the map of the area? they were 1 and a half minute in the air, half a mile from shore, how deep was the water? why is NTSB saying that the plane will not be recovered, while there were recoveries from 500 feet depth?”
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December 14th, 2013 @ 9:49 am
The more details emerge about this crash the more suspicious it becomes. It appears now that the plane did not sink but floated on water. That’s why all the passengers were able to put life preservers on an exit the plane. Fuddy had a preserver on. She was perfectly safe in the water until help would arrive. What happened to her that she died? A bullet hole in the head, a la Ron Brown?
December 14th, 2013 @ 10:15 am
The radiation killed her!https://cts.vresp.com/c/?BeforeItsNews/0f66aad231/70c7b92201/cf9d364d29
December 14th, 2013 @ 10:33 am
Well, it looks like Damien is alive…!
I smelled a putrid activity when I read the earlier category!
And when a Navy Seal sounds off, then, Damien has another REAL WORLD PROBLEM!!
Thanks Harry…
December 14th, 2013 @ 11:02 am
Harry, you are correct that an emergency landing can be executed on water in this aircraft but not without engine power to control it. I don’t believe the plane lost its engine power. That’s why they don’t want to recover it. An aircraft without any power will drop like a sack of rocks. If you doubt me take a model airplane and toss it in the air and see what happens to it. This was a staged event with the sole purpose of witness elimination. Remember I am in the 40% category.
December 14th, 2013 @ 11:15 am
I believe the plane was recovered using a helicopter to helo the craft to a waiting Govt cargo ship and whisked away never to be seen again. They wouldn’t leave it out there to be found later.
December 14th, 2013 @ 11:43 am
MYSTERIOUS CAR PROBLEMS
FUDDY
BREITBART
HASTINGS
ALL DEAD
HASTINGS DIED IN A FIREBALL CAR ACCIDENT
NO COINCIDENCE AT ALL
WATCH YOUR BACK
THE ENTIRE ALINSKYITE REVOLUTION IS AT STAKE
December 14th, 2013 @ 11:51 am
After reading these accounts of posters, I have begun to think back on a film I saw back in the ’60’s: Thunderball…!
A Bond Film…and they set up one of their own to take the dive with a plane under water! But (if I remember correctly) that person in the submerged plane was a DOUBLE! But when he tried to get out, he was caught on something and stayed imprisoned within the cockpit!
Spector (from the film), will do whatever it can to stop real transparency!
And if this plane is now submerged, who knows WHOM is inside? and have they (nwo-Obama) hidden some kind of cargo within?
Remember, these people are totally ruthless and possessed of evil. They are capable of most anything! Be careful, friend, Orly! I wish I lived nearby…no one would get near you!
December 14th, 2013 @ 12:52 pm
To Rod Riddle: No, an aircraft without any power will NOT drop like a sack of rocks. When a plane loses its engine it loses it’s thrust – but not the velocity and altitude! A skillful pilot may safely glide down even in a heavy Boing (a Big Iron) – the real case near New York a couple of year ago. By sliding down, a pilot can actually increase the velocity (having no thrust) so that the plane stays stable still having some lift from the wings.
December 14th, 2013 @ 1:23 pm
I wonder why there is still no word from any of the surviving passengers as to what really happened to Fuddy? Have they all been shut up?
December 14th, 2013 @ 1:52 pm
Dear Orly,
Here is another airplane survivor’s name, Rosa Key.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y&id=235839991
‘He was calling to everyone to stay together, even though he was bleeding.’
The owner of Makani Kai Air says the pilot told him the crash was caused by engine failure
By Gregg K. Kakesako
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Dec 14, 2013
Rosa Key has had a hard time sleeping — the events of Wednesday play over and over in her head.
“It was like slow motion”, said Key, one of eight survivors of a plane crash in waters off Kalaupapa that took the life of state Health Director Loretta Fuddy.
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Paula Hoehn
December 14th, 2013 @ 1:59 pm
Dear Orly,
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24219122/conspiracy-theory-about-plane-crash-angers-company-president?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HawaiiNewsNow-News+%28Hawaii+News+Now+-+News%29
Conspiracy theory about plane crash angers company president
Posted: Dec 13, 2013 7:29 PM PST
Updated: Dec 14, 2013 10:18 AM PST
By Lynn Kawano
excerpt:
HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) – Richard Schuman says the so-called ‘birthers’ have hit a new low.
The President of Makani Kai Air is speaking specifically to New York businessman Donald Trump.
…”The conspiracy theory,” says Schuman, “I kinda took that a little personal that my company or my crew or my people had anything to do with (it) such idiotic nonsense.”
Copyright 2013 Hawaii News Now. All rights reserved.
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Paula Hoehn
December 14th, 2013 @ 2:20 pm
Dear Orly,
Watch video (short 10 sec. commercial first) of owner Schuman just as he says catastrophic engine failure, his eyes look down – not at interviewer, and he pauses slightly (at about 16 seconds).
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24210882/kalaupapa-residents-say-health-dir
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Paula Hoehn
December 14th, 2013 @ 4:05 pm
so, the plane should be raised and examined
December 14th, 2013 @ 5:08 pm
Simply another case of murder, by the Obot thugs.
She was drugged and beaten, then vested and
thrown in the water. She had leaked data only
recently. Obots were furious with her. Just
a dirty thug murder. Onaka and Orly and Okubo
had better be doubly careful and well-armed.
IMO. These thugs mean business!!! Book em,
Danno!!!!
December 14th, 2013 @ 5:12 pm
no, she was not dragged and not beaten, she suddenly became unresponsive
December 14th, 2013 @ 5:12 pm
And why has Abercrombie said nothing about his
dear deceased co-conspirator, Loretta Fuddy???
Maybe he and Schatz and Gilardi will be next.
Murder most foul, IMO! And Eric Holder, AG,
is surely laughing at this “Christmas Xmas
miracle” pulled off by the obot thugs. Take
care, and be careful Orly. Danger is at hand.
IMO