32 Responses to “A few good men and women needed in HI on Sept 14th”

1. Adam Crail
   August 16th, 2011 @ 5:10 am

   You still don’t get that there is no waiver clause in Hawaiian privacy law, do you?

2. The Fogbow
   August 16th, 2011 @ 5:37 am

   We will be there!

3. RacerJim
   August 16th, 2011 @ 6:00 am

   Adam Crail,

   You still don’t get, or do but ignore, that there is a clause in the Hawaii Revised Statutes which grants anyone with an order from a court of competent juristiction the right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record, do or don’t you?

4. outraged
   August 16th, 2011 @ 7:00 am

   You have strong legal papers. You present yourself well in the courtroom. Why do you need supporters there?

5. Sovereign Soul
   August 16th, 2011 @ 9:15 am

   Outraged ~ Have you never heard of the need for witnesses because the media will ALLWAYS distort the true facts — as was done in the two court appearances at Federal Distract judge David O. Carter that I witnessed. Besides that, there is a spiritual need for having supporters in the courtroom. There becomes a positive energy that can be felt by most “sensitive” persons which definitely has an influence on the receptivity of the judge.

   I urge people to go to support Dr. Taitz AND be a part of American history in the making.

6. truthbetold11
   August 16th, 2011 @ 11:24 am

   You will go there and they will push it out another 5 weeks. This is a national security issue and top people burying heads in sand. Where are the real people of courage. Lets get this settle once and for all. If jesus was here he would say. anything hidden in the dark will be brought to the light. The dark hates the light for fear of its deeds being exposed.

7. The Truth
   August 16th, 2011 @ 12:14 pm

   AMEN. What Sovereign Soul said! And please send donations to cover Orly’s costs! She fights for all of our freedom and for the future of the land of the free.

8. john
   August 17th, 2011 @ 4:36 pm

   RacerJim doesn’t know or understand the law. Orly will not prevail in this matter.

9. Mike Stoner
   August 18th, 2011 @ 2:34 am

   > You still don’t get, or do but ignore, that there is a clause in the Hawaii Revised Statutes which grants anyone with an order from a court of competent juristiction the right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record

   Ah, moving the goalposts again?

   I was discussing Orly’s argument that Obama waived his privacy rights. That is one of her main arguments as to why she is supposedly entitled to see the record.

   You cannot answer that by turning to the other reasons – I will get to them soon. 🙂

   > to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record

   But Orly wants to see the original, not a certified copy. Did you miss that or are you deliberately obfuscating the discussion?

10. Mike Stoner
    August 18th, 2011 @ 2:35 am

    > You have strong legal papers. You present yourself well in the courtroom.

    You win the irony award of the month.

11. RacerJim
    August 18th, 2011 @ 5:16 am

    john is an Obot.

12. jcm52
    August 18th, 2011 @ 6:22 pm

    @RJ:

    “You still don’t get, or do but ignore, that there is a clause in the Hawaii Revised Statutes which grants anyone with an order from a court of competent juristiction the right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record, do or don’t you?”

    You apparently don’t get that no court has given such an order. No court has suggested that it is seriously considering it.

    As for you Orly: at the moment you are not entitled to it. The court will see that you don’t qualify under any of the conditions. So the law actually prevents Hawai’i from showing it to you – there is no clause in the law making an exception if the person the certificate belongs to releases a copy. This is like your patients are allowed to say that you gave them a root canal, but the law prevents you from saying you gave them a root canal – even if they say so.

    The court will find that the dept of Health has acted correctly.

    If you really want to get access, what you need to do is get an order from the court. You get a court order by requesting it from the court. Not by suing the dept of health for failing to break the law.

13. john
    August 18th, 2011 @ 7:15 pm

    I don’t know what an “obot” is, RJ, but if it’s what you’re not then I’m fine with it.

    Mike – No rights were waived by anyone. As usual, Orly’s legal arguments are specious. And neither she, nor anyone else other than President Obama have any need or right to inspect the President’s original birth certificate.

14. RacerJim
    August 19th, 2011 @ 7:41 am

    @john

    Obot = O(bama)(Ro)bot.

    Beginning in late 2008 HDOH officials and/or the Hawaii Attorney General have publically stated on more than one occassion that Hawaii law prevents anyone, except as specified by the HDOH Director, to inspect anyone’s vital records — including someone wanting to inspect their own vital records. Remember, in her letter in response to Obama’s request for two copies of his long-form birth certificate, HDOH Loretta Fuddy mentioned she was making an exception to Hawaii law in his case due to the office he holds.

    Alas, during 2008-2009 the mother of the Nordyke twins and at least two other average citizens requested and obtained photocopies of their “Certificate of Live Birth” (long-form) from the HDOH. Obviously those Hawaii officials either don’t know Hawaii law very well or they’ve been lying.

15. john
    August 19th, 2011 @ 12:33 pm

    Jim, you’re just one confused little fella! The exception that Ms Fuddy was referring to was allowing a photocopy of the President’s original birth certificate. It’s unlikely that the actual original would have been photocopied to satisfy most requests for a certified long-form birth certificate copy; rather, the information held on the original (or in the master computer record, in many cases) would be printed onto a colored form that bore the seal or imprint of the controlling authority (in this case, the HDOH). Remember (or learn, if you don’t know already) that as a point of law one never has to produce one’s “original” birth certificate; rather, one has to produce a certified copy from the local or state registrar. Which is what the President has done. Repeatedly.
    Also FYI, “Certificate of Birth”, “Birth Certificate”, “Certificate of Live Birth”, “Certfication of Live Birth” – all these terms are interchangeable, and mean exactly the same thing. Anybody who tells you otherwise is a liar or a fool.
    Now you know!

16. Kinescat
    August 19th, 2011 @ 8:23 pm

    Racerjim that’s not true. Everything you wrote is inaccurate. Saying a falsehood won’t make it true.

17. ken
    August 19th, 2011 @ 10:25 pm

    So how does making a case on the testimony of experts that the released document to the public is a forgery? being the case, if i am correct that itself is a crime and warrants investigation…..I know if you or I presented a forged document to prove eligibility of anything less charges would apply…. would it be a felony charge? (oops there goes some of your rights)..im just a simple man and dont know much about the law..i do know wrong from right

18. RacerJim
    August 20th, 2011 @ 6:24 am

    @Kinescat,

    FOGBLOW
    http://www.fogblow.com

19. Yephora
    August 20th, 2011 @ 7:21 am

    “Fogbow” = lies, deceit, slander, fraud, libel, conspiracy, treachery, treason; liberals, anarchists, criminals, satanists, atheists, America haters, Constitution haters, Bible haters, God haters, liberty haters, freedom haters, rule of law haters, Alinsky-ites, Traitors, Leftists, Marxists, Leninists, Maoists, Communists… or to sum them all up in one word: OBOTS.

20. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    August 20th, 2011 @ 1:23 pm

    bith Fukino and Fuddy claimed that they expected the original, they are cornered now

21. Laura
    August 20th, 2011 @ 2:22 pm

    Your funny Orly !!!!!!!!!!!!!

22. RacerJim
    August 21st, 2011 @ 10:04 am

    @john

    FOGBLOW
    http://www.fogblow.com

23. FreeperWatch
    August 21st, 2011 @ 3:49 pm

    Hey, Jimmy, your link doesn’t go anywhere related to Obots, ooops

24. Julie
    August 21st, 2011 @ 8:35 pm

    That FOGBLOW! nonsensical thingie is what birthers post when they are cornered.

25. BlackSunshine84
    August 22nd, 2011 @ 12:30 am

    If Dr. Taitz is wrong then why do so many 0bots waste so much of their time on her site? Why not get a life or something?

26. RacerJim
    August 22nd, 2011 @ 4:58 am

    @Julie,

    I cordially invite you to tell me when I was cornered, by whom, and how?

27. RacerJim
    August 22nd, 2011 @ 5:06 am

    @FreeperWatch

    That link I provided automatically censors Obots, smile

28. Ike Prescott
    August 23rd, 2011 @ 3:06 am

    > Alas, during 2008-2009 the mother of the Nordyke twins and at least two other average citizens requested and obtained photocopies of their “Certificate of Live Birth” (long-form) from the HDOH.

    RacerJim, that is not true.

    If you look at the Nordyke BC’s, their certified copies were created in 1966! That means the mother got them in that year, not in 2008 or 2009.

29. RacerJim
    August 23rd, 2011 @ 8:29 am

    @Ike Prescott,

    Thank you for pointing that out. I sit humbly corrected. 🙂

    Now I’ll point out that those other two citizens also didn’t request or obtain photocopies of long-form BCs from the HDOH during 2008-2009 but, rather, in one case in September 2010 and in the other case in March 2011. Sorry and/or my bad.

30. Nopinko
    August 25th, 2011 @ 9:36 am

    John is either JimBot or Frank Arduini.
    Prove that I’m wrong here.

31. F.R. Kuchem
    September 15th, 2011 @ 1:27 pm

    Today is September 15, and I still see no news about what happened at the September 14 hearing. What happened?

32. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    September 15th, 2011 @ 5:07 pm

    it was postponed to Nov21

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