From the point of view of the Aero space engineer
Posted on | November 20, 2009 | 14 Comments
A Possible Scenario For Our Current Mess
Friday, November 20, 2009 11:27 AM
To:
“J B Williams” <JBWilliams09@gmail.com>
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Having read and listened to many bits and pieces of the Obama enigma, I have my own version of what may have brought us to this absurd point in American history. I am an aeronautical engineer, not a political scientist or historian, but I have enjoyed a career in the military aircraft business ( Convair & General Dynamics) during the height of the Cold War. Later, I worked closely with foreign military and industrial agencies in Europe and the Mid-East.
Anyone who thinks the Cold War ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union is extremely niave or hasn’t been paying attention to the real world. We broke the Russians economically and reduced their military threat, but we did not change their attitude towards us as some people choose to believe—indeed, we gave them more incentive to do us harm.
During the height of the Cold War,1950’sthrough 1970’s, the Soviets spent large sums of money on many efforts to damage the US. There were short term efforts like arming the Cubans and more subtile, long term undertakings to undermine our way of life. I think we’re experiencing the results of latter now.
To create the perfect Manchurian Candidate, one would need to start very early and completely control the environment and make the background untraceable. Post-war Hawaii would be the ideal place from which to work. It was of mixed ethnic backgrounds, loosely governed, and a fertile area for communistic activities. The efforts of the US to bring the islands into statehood were not totally popular. Indeed, some of the land is not US-governed.
Hawaii would provide tha Where.
In order to obscure the background of the “chosen one”, what better way than to kidnap a baby and give him a set of chosen parents who would raise and train him in the desired manner. The Royal Lands of Hawaii provided the ideal source for the acquisition of a child in that it was a sovereign territory not under US authority and with minimal crime fighting resources. It would not be hard to find candidate “parents” in the progressive college group of young communists present in Hawaii at the time. It would be an honor to serve the cause—and there would be money involved, of course. Barack H. Obama and Sidney Dunham were almost perfect for the task—both were into the young people’s progressive movement and her father was well into the local Red element. They also met the requirement for a mixed marriage in that the Hawaiian baby was dark skinned.
Barack Obama Sr. and Sidney Dunham provided the Who.
This hypothesis would seem to answer some of the anomolies of the Obama episode that have surfaced thus far.
—Why did S A D look unpregnant in a photo on the beach shortly before the supposed birth,
—Why is there little or no documentation of the wedding–no guests, no family, no records,
— Why is the residence listed on COLB (filed but not registered) that of the Grandparents,
—Why did BHO Sr. maintain his own apartment after the marriage–there’s no address for the married couple,
—Why or how did S A D get registered in college in Washington state 15 days after the proclaimed date of birth.
The raising and indoctrination of a child would have been easy in Communistic environment of Hawaii. The Dunham grandparents had the political and financial connections ( Davis, the Ford Foundation, et al) to make the arrangement work.The Soviet connection was easy to maintain in Hawaii but Obama Sr. separated from his ” family” and went to Indonesia.Not too much later he died in an auto “accident”. That took care of any possible loose ends.
Sidney remarried and lived in Indonesia where Obama Jr.(now Soetoro) went to school as a Muslim. ThatIs not bad from the Soviet point of view. It would add to the obscuration of the evolving personage. Sidney worked in several banking/real estate scams in Indonesia and developed contacts with anumber of American leftist organizations. For whatever reason, it became desirable for her to drop out of the picture, so she “died” of cancer. No hospital records of treatment, no death certificate, just gone. There are several indications that she surfaced in Washington state under a variation of names—again, in the banking/real estate world. How odd.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Communist/Socialist activities in America had made considerable inroads in the Democratic Party, both locally and nationally. It was not difficult at all to insert a bright, well trained agent into local politics in an area where the groundwork had been laid by corruption and infiltrated labor/community organizations.
This long term effort provided the How.
In 2008, the American people, with the help of some “innovative” voting, did exactly what the Soviets had set in motion many years ago. There are a great many holes in the background of the illegal alien who occupies the White House, but thus far, no viable challenge has been raised.
Now is the time—-Let’s Roll !!!
R.P. Frye
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November 20th, 2009 @ 3:57 pm
It is hard to tell if this is true or not. I have a similar background to this author and have witnessed first hand a number of nefarious Soviet plots of this ilk.
I can say that this scenario is not only plausible – but reasonable – and almost certainly underway.
Whether or not Obama is ‘it’ is hard to say. But the important thing is that we have somehow become sleepy and unwatchful. If Obama is not ‘it’, then we still need to be on the lookout. This is one of the biggest reasons why the current crisis is so important – regardless of Obama’s ultimate legitimacy – we cannot afford the implications of ‘giving a pass’ to Obama.
Given modern technology and worldwide posturing, we need stronger provisions in regards Presidential eligibility, not weaker ones!
God help us – silly complacent people.
November 20th, 2009 @ 4:13 pm
How did you ever succeed in becoming an Engineer with such irrational thoughts, HOW?
You have already condemned the man without proof is that your form of Justice, FOOL.
Glad you are retired, with that mind, OOOFFF.
November 20th, 2009 @ 6:44 pm
to benrky –
Let me explain to you how it works. If an employee of a large ‘military/industrial complex’ company desires to undertake ‘sensitive’ projects, they must receive a security clearance. Until that process is complete (often many months), they are what YOU would presumably call ‘guilty until proven innocent’.
Yes, it really IS that simple!
Only after the completion of this process are they granted access to the sensitive information. In the world of government secrets, ALL parties (civilian or military) are ‘suspected spies’, until there is positive and comprehensive evidence to the contrary.
Obama has never finished this process. It is a matter of prudence and national security. It is not a criminal situation which requires the ‘innocent until guilty’ paradigm.
You may have encountered a microcosm of the same situation in your everyday life. Next time you need ‘certification’ – say birth certificate, passport, drivers license, etc. – try telling them that they have to let you move forward until THEY can prove that you are not who you say your are. How well do you think that will work?
November 20th, 2009 @ 6:59 pm
I don’t know the actual facts about this post, but is it very possible. As for condemming the man (obama) without proof, this is not a court of law, but an opinion expressed by (for now) free citizens and all obama needs to do to prove us wrong is.. open his records to verify that he is qualified to be President.
November 20th, 2009 @ 11:51 pm
I, too, am a retired aerospace engineer. Regrettably, Marxists grab onto any minor error and offer it up as proof that their opposition is ‘stupid’and ‘misinformed’. In the present case, Barack’s mother was named Stanley Ann, not Sidney. This minor mistake, however, does NOT refute the proposed ‘Manchurian Candidate’ Theory. I can think of no other reason to explain why nearly all of Obama’s economic and foreign policies seem directed at destroying the America in which I grew up. I never though I would ever see the day that America would elect a Communist as President. ENJOY you Utopia.
November 21st, 2009 @ 12:44 am
benrky, You are the one with a problem and indeed, people like you are a large part of the problem. You would rather insult people who think than come up with a viable alternative. It is exactly your attitude, or fear of being so derided, that has led to the Political Correctness that is suffocating this Country. Obama HAS wrought enough havoc, he HAS committed crimes and High Crimes and Misdemeanors against our Country. He has lied to, cheated and decieved the People. Obama is only still there because no-one has the guts to stand face to face with him and ASK the awkward questions.
Well, I agree with Mr. Frye, questions HAVE to be asked, and soon. I AM READY, AND YOU?
Neil SANKEY
November 21st, 2009 @ 3:38 am
Only thing he left out was the financing – 500 Billion a year + in “Petro Dollars” (from the time of the Saudi Nationalization of Aramco at 50 billion a year in 1972 and going up every year since) -gave the cabal plenty of cash to fund Obama’s schooling, etc. I have been telling people all along that Obama had some 200 Million backing him when he went to Chicago. [Where do you think Tony Resko got the money?]
I can’t believe that our Elitist Rulers, Fienstein, Boxer, (of course Reid is just plain stupid etc) cannot fathom just how bad the US will look after they finish destroying it – We are not producing Energy as we should, even though we have enough “Fossil” fuels to last for 2,400 years- we already are importing fruits and vegetables from foreign countries – while the greatest produce growing area in the world is being destroyed by witholding water. (I was born and raised in Bakersfield) . Why are we even allowing them to talk about health care? Starvation is an equal opportunity destroyer of life, and more efficient than war. Damn fools…. Bill Zarkos
November 21st, 2009 @ 4:41 am
It’s a very plausible scenario. To think Obama might not be “it”, is to imply that there is yet a person in the wings waiting to be worse than Obama is for our country. I mean, Obama is spot on, so how can he not be “it”? How much more destructive could the real “it”, not having shown up yet, be? This is a very insightful look at our current situation. Thank you, R.P. Frye, for your thoughts on this and for your service to our great country.
November 22nd, 2009 @ 2:06 pm
Carlye,
We have the protection for POTUS the prerequisite NBC. It has been usurped by the opposition and with the assistance and WILFUL blindness from the courts, congress and senate. our God given soverign country and its inhabitants are under seige! Therefore please hear me loudly, in your ears. DO NOT TOUCH OUR CONSTITUTION. That is what the opposition is doing, your thinking is exactly what the opposition wants you to think. Orly and myraids of others are keeping the fight even though we only hear Orly there are myraids.
November 22nd, 2009 @ 9:16 pm
I think it is a very possible Scenario , I also think that a lot of people , actually , I know that a lot of people that defend Obama do not even understand the constitution , It is clear that Obama , even , if he was born in Hawaii , is still not eligible to be President , the most Obama can be is a Native citizen , not natural born & for all of you who wish to debate me on this one , I will give you a hint , First read the U.S. Constitution , If you have problems understanding such , get help , You will see for yourselves [ definition ] “Natural born citizen is a child born to parents not owing alliegence to any other country ” Obama does not qualify @ most he is a native citizen , If he was born in Hawaii !!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 @ 9:23 pm
This posting is for those people that support Obama , but they do not have any proof of his constitutional right to be President , this is the Legal Answers !!
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Obama ia a US citizen but not a natural born citizen per US Constitution.
In 1758, a treatise was written by Emerich de Vattel called The Law of Nations. In clause 212 Citizens and Natives it states, “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents [plural] who are citizens.” The Law of Nations was widely read by the founding fathers and the definition of “natural born citizen” contained therein was the meaning commonly understood at the time our Constitution was written.
Here is the actual text of that passage:
212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
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November 22nd, 2009 @ 10:38 pm
The last postings of mine were the Legal definitions of a ” Natural Born Citizen ”
( ie ) U.S. Supreme Court Legal Definition
The Obama Camp twisted the Legal Definition around and only printed this part ( below )
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The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
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therefore trying to mislead the Public into thinking that a Native citizen is the same as a ” Natural Born citizen ” they are not !!!!!!
Obama is not Legally The President of the U.S.A. nor is Biden the Legal V.P. due to a fraudulent campaign !!!!They both need to be dealt with by the Legal manner of the U.S.A.
November 24th, 2009 @ 12:09 pm
More of the story—check today’s RepubX.com and the write-up regarding BHO’s connections with the US Communists and in particular Alice and Buzz Palmer.
I don’t put much faith in coincedence, one of the primary targets of the Soviets was the black portion of the country–racial conflict is always a powerful weapon. It’s no wonder a supposedly black baby would have been chosen for their task. The Muslim aspect was an added aspect of disention that materialized later.
Look at who his associates were, look at who he surrounds himself with, look at his appointees, look at what he’s trying to do–actions speak loudly, this guy is very sinister regardless of how he got where he is now!!