More clarification about Obama-forgery, October 20, oral argument in 9th Circuit Court of Appeals
Posted on | August 11, 2015 | 21 Comments
More clarification about Obama-forgery, October 20, oral argument in 9th Circuit Court of Appeals
By Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
I am asked a lot of questions about this case Grinols et al v Eletoral College, Obama, Biden, Secretary of State of Ca, Governor of CA et al
1. can people be present?
Yes, everyone can come, this is an open court hearing. Courtroom typically has between 50-100 seats. Previously I had more than 100 people coming to court and the court accommodated by giving us 3 courtrooms and close circuit TV in the 2 overflow courtrooms. Please, come and support me in fighting for justice for every American and help me stop the charlatan, who is usurping the White House using a stolen CT Social Security number and toilet paper for IDs
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Orly:
I love your work, your passion and your tenacity.
I love your work, your passion and your tenacity.
I also ask, if this another one of the usual ‘Obot’ judges
going to toss the case for lack of standing or another BS reason.
Also, are you involved in this case? it wasn’t clear from what I read.
Answer: It is my case in that I am the attorney representing all the plaintiffs. James Grinols was a Republican elector, who stated that he was prevented from serving as an elector due to fraud committed by Obama in using bogus IDs and a stolen SSN to get in the WH.
Another plaintiff was Keith Judd, who was a presidential candidate in 2012. He came second in West Virginia Democratic party primary with 40% of the vote. His claim is that he lost the nomination due to the fact that Obama is not eligible. Lower court judge, Hon Morrison C. England already ruled that he had standing as he had direct particularized injury, however Judge England ruled that even though Presidential Candidate Keith Judd had standing to proceed with the case and discovery, the judge incorrectly ruled that this is not a justiciable question because only Congress can impeach the president. The judge completely twisted and misrepresented the facts in order to cover up crimes committed by Obama. In reality, the plaintiffs did not ask the court to impeach Obama and the case was brought before Obama was confirmed by the electoral college, before the election results were confirmed by the Congress and before Obama was sworn in. A declaratory and injunctive relief would have stopped Obama in his tracks. Even today, if the Court of Appeals decides in the favor of the plaintiffs and we conduct the discovery, the evidence of bogus IDs will not only force Obama’s resignation, it will pave the way to nullifying executive orders and bills signed by Obama.
For 7 years we have seen treason and criminal complicity by the courts in aiding and abetting Obama, in refusing to hear the case on the merits using one bogus excuse after another. Will this court be different? I don’t know. It will be a panel of 3 judges. I don’t know yet who will they be, I don’t know who appointed them. Frankly, I saw criminality and treason by judges appointed by both Democrat and Republican presidents, it doesn’t matter that much.
All I can do is, be there, at the field of battle, fight, as hard as I can, and hope that one day justice, decency and allegiance to the oath of office and to this nation will prevail. I am asking my supporters to spread the word. and send thin notification to all media outlets. Sadly, publications, who claim to be unti-establishment, did not publish any information on my cases, as they are either afraid of Obama or they seek financial gains and publish only nformation about cases, where attorneys pay them a share for advertising. The pyblic needs to know about this case, they need to know the truth, particularly now, when Obama is pushing terrible Iran-nuclear weapons agreement. Please, contact Hannity, Limbaugh, WND and other. And, please, donate to my work
See the schedule below.
United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Calendar for James R. Browning U.S. Courthouse, San Francisco
Oral Argument Notice
Note: Calendar entries may change up until the hearing date. Please remember to check the docket report for updates. Case synopses are prepared by court staff for the convenience of the reader.
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U.S. COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
James R. Browning U.S. Courthouse
95 Seventh Street
San Francisco CA 94103
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August 12th, 2015 @ 6:00 am
James O’Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII
Tomorrow We’re releasing a new video exposing a federal govt agency violating constitutional rights. And they bring up @realDonaldTrump
August 12th, 2015 @ 7:48 am
Good news. Bob at Fogbow wrote:
“Some inside baseball: At the 9th, once briefing is completed, staff screens each case and decides whether a case should go either to an argument panel or to an oral screening panel (where sure-fire losers go to die). (And (IIRC) around a third of the 9th’s docket is decided by oral screening panels.) A judge on an oral screening panel, however, can override staff’s recommendation and “kick” a case up to an argument panel if she or he thinks a case deserves a closer look.
So, for this case to be before an argument panel means either staff or a judge thought the case was too complex for an oral screening panel.”
Very important. Remember Schneider v. Rusk, 1964.
SCOTUS opinion, Schneider v. Rusk, 377 U.S. 163 (1964), pages 165, 166, quote:
“We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity, and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the “natural born” citizen is eligible to be President. Art. II, § 1.
While the rights of citizenship of the native born derive from § 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment and the rights of the naturalized citizen derive from satisfying, free of fraud, the requirements set by Congress, the latter, apart from the exception noted, “becomes a member of the society, possessing all the rights of a native citizen, and standing, in the view of the constitution, on the footing of a native. The constitution does not authorize Congress to enlarge or abridge those rights. The simple power of the national Legislature is to prescribe a uniform rule of naturalization, and the exercise of this power exhausts it so far as respects the individual.”
The sentence, “The constitution does not authorize Congress to enlarge or abridge those rights, ” means Congress is not constitutionally authorized to define the term “natural born citizen”; nor is Congress constitutionally authorized to examine the background of an individual to determine if an individual is a natural born citizen. Congress is mandated to develop a uniform rule of naturalization. Once an individual becomes a US citizen, then Congress does not have a mandate to make determinations with respect to the individual’s natural born citizenship status.
US law mandates Congress to determine if a candidate is qualified. Qualified does not mean eligible. Currently, a qualified presidential candidate is the person who receives 270 electoral votes and has nothing to do with the Article II, Section 1 requirement the President shall be eligible. Congress cannot prevent an ineligible President from assuming the office because the People are sovereign. The People do not swear an oath to support the Constitution. The People may abolish or alter the Constitution through the election of an ineligible President. See the Federalist Papers, No. 78. The sovereignty only answers to God. The US federal government answers to the sovereignty in times of unhappiness. The sovereign can abolish the Constitution and terminate the authority of the Congress and the Courts by electing an ineligible President.
Plaintiffs alleged a sitting President is ineligible. The District Court erred when is refused to recognize the People are sovereign and the sovereign can terminate the Constitution at will through the election of an ineligible President. The District Court erred when is refused to allow discovery of a sitting President’s eligibility to avoid a sovereign immunity challenge to the US federal government. The District Court has a vested interest in the outcome of the sovereign immunity challenge. Discovery will prove the allegation the sitting President is ineligible. The District Court’s constitutional authority with respect to jurisdiction will be terminated when it is proven the sitting President is ineligible.
Once the sitting President is discovered to be ineligible, you can sue all US federal and state government executives who acted against the will of the sovereign. Pursuant to Art. VI of the Constitution, all federal and state executives must support the Constitution. All federal and state executives refused to acknowledge the sitting President was ineligible because they would have lost their jobs, benefits, pensions and reputation. The Constitution was voided on January 20, 2009 through the will of the majority of the People.
August 12th, 2015 @ 7:50 am
Any case that brings the White House Stink to justice can be a WIN against him when it comes to his ability to PARDON the thieves and COMMIES/JIHADIST in his administration.
Somewhere there has to be a method to STOP this White House piece of anti-American trash from destroying America.
The ILLEGALS haven’t a clue of how American RIGHTS benefit them… and one has to say that America born citizens have no UNDERSTANDING of how the CONSTITUTION protects their freedoms.
When are AMERICANS going to ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION? It is the DOCUMENT that Americans SWEAR AN OATH TO ‘DEFEND’ AND THEN DON’T DEFEND ITS PRINCIPLES. DAMMMMMNNNNNNN STUPIDITY IN MY BOOK AIN’T IT ?
August 12th, 2015 @ 7:58 am
Could they be any more generous ..15 minutes? Many, many hours were given to the perverts in defense of gay marriage.
We have an Indonesian citizen, with fabricated IDs, making decisions for America, resulting in the possible annihilation of Israel and Dr. Taitz gets 15 minutes after fighting for years? This is such a travesty. What happened to our America?
August 12th, 2015 @ 9:00 am
I don’t believe this is a winning argument
August 12th, 2015 @ 10:15 am
I am unable to read your brief submitted to Appeals Court on Scribd.com Do you have a link to brief on your website?
August 12th, 2015 @ 11:55 am
There’s an inconsistency within the written order by the District Court that may get you a reversal and remand.
The District Court correctly recognized the Plaintiffs argued President Obama was not a natural born citizen and sought injunctive relief.
The District Court erred when it ruled, “In support of their argument, Plaintiffs allege that President Obama is using a stolen Connecticut social security number, a forged short-form birth certificate, a forged long-form birth certificate, and a forged selective service certificate as proof that he is a natural born American citizen.” The District Court refused or failed to recognize that plaintiffs submitted exhibits to show President Obama was not a natural born citizen.
The District Court erred in its analysis of a temporary restraining order standard, citing Winter v. Natural Res. Def. Council, 555 U.S. 7, 20 (2008); Stormans, Inc. v. Selecky, 586 F.3d 1109, 1127 (9th Cir. 2009), (“The party requesting preliminary injunctive relief must show that he is likely to succeed on the merits, that he is likely to suffer irreparable harm in the absence of preliminary relief, that the balance of equities tips in his favor, and that an injunction is in the public interest,”) (internal quotations omitted), after incorrectly reviewing plaintiffs’ exhibits to prove President Obama is a natural born citizen. Plaintiffs’ exhibits were submitted to show plaintiffs were likely to succeed on the merits pursuant to the temporary restraining order standard cited by the District Court. The District Court ruled Plaintiffs did not meet the standard for a temporary restraining order under the incorrect premise that Plaintiffs submitted exhibits to prove President Obama was a natural born citizen.
The District Court ordered, “To the extent that there is any inconsistency between this Order and the Court’s ruling from the bench, the terms of this Order control.”
August 12th, 2015 @ 12:58 pm
The Islamo-NAZIs in the courts are dragging Obama across the finish line on January 20, 2017.
August 12th, 2015 @ 5:16 pm
Does anyone believe the ninth “circus” court will do anything??
August 12th, 2015 @ 6:39 pm
The best course of action is to give up and put your energies into something that you have a chance of winning like supporting the Presidential candidate of your choice so that perhaps she or he can win.
August 12th, 2015 @ 7:09 pm
We shall see what we shall see.
Good luck, Lady Liberty.
Tell her, Danno!!!
August 12th, 2015 @ 8:59 pm
well, should I just give up the fight?
August 13th, 2015 @ 12:25 am
Absolutely not! Do not give up this fight for Justice ever!
1) Yes, this despicable null and void nation is heading on to the 2016 deadline NOT WISHING to repent in a gross sin and shame ever – in its voluntary submission to the usurper and UFO (Unidentified Foreign Operative) for 8 years!
2) And these United in Sodomy America may well “succeed” in it and forever enter into the history with this gross sin of non-violently imposed, willingly tolerated, and swept under a rug usurpation. This nation will be cursed anyway, at least for its sodomy, if nothing else. However you, dear Orly, DO WRITE and cut in stone its true history. And let us all to keep shoving the nose of this nation into its poop forever, with no state of limitation!
3) I am sorry for saying this, but please do drink the remaining bitter swallows of this disintegrated “justice”: just for the record. Then write a book containing each and every step of this 8 year long struggle: for the future generations to learn about a scale of baseness achieved by the former bright city on the hill.
August 13th, 2015 @ 12:39 am
Here is a related joke from the 20th century photography.
When coming home late at night and wishing some water, by a mistake you drink from a bottle of developer, drink also the fixer, or else the project remains unfinished.
August 13th, 2015 @ 6:26 am
@ #2
Don’t think I’ve ever read so much convoluted hogwash in my life.
The term itself “Natural Born Citizen” is so unique, so rare, its most well known source, or location is unquestionably within the Constitution of this United States, and the at least now, well known treatise “The Law Of Nations” by Emmerich De Vattel. Being that we know that the founding fathers were well familiar with this book, and did rely heavily on it not just composing our constitution, but in most all legal, state, and national affairs, of the time, there can be no doubt that it was the source for their understanding and interpretation of the term “Natural Born”. Only a lying fraud, one intent or complicit in the infiltration of our highest office by foreign interests will deny this simple truth, other than those just to ignorant to understand or care.
You also seem to be arguing that one can violate the Constitution and that there is no mechanism for the prosecution, but clearly the federal government is vested with the authority to make law necessary for the execution of and adherence to the Constitution. You actually have the temerity to claim the people had every right to vote for an ineligible candidate as an act of “revolt” against the Constitution ignoring the crime of the d.n.c. and every secretary of state certifying the fraud obama as a “Naturaural Born” U.S. citizen. Of course we all know that there are just not enough people in this country stupid enough to have voted for this fraud once, much less twice. His election could only have been the result of voter fraud.
You also reference the 14th amendment insinuating birth on U.S. soil alone instills citizenship. That, also, is just another lie, based on an intentional misrepresentation of the 14th amendment, which in essence is the precursor of the now open boarder policy of this corrupted regime.
I realize this has really been a waste of time, but not all are not as stupid as you would like.
Only the ignorant, liars, or cowards, will refer to obama as president.
August 13th, 2015 @ 11:09 am
@ Kevin J. Lankford
Before the Declaration of Independence, the King of England was sovereign. The King only answered to God and his proclamations were the supreme law of the land. In an act of defiance, the Founders declared the People to be sovereign.
The People is not one guy who stands on a soapbox declaring he is a sovereign citizen and the US tax code is unconstitutional. The sovereign is represented by individuals residing in the country who vote in an election concerning a national interest, i.e. who shall be the next President of the United States.
The People are not constrained by the US Constitution. Federal and state judges, federal and state legislators, and federal and state executive officers must support the US Constitution pursuant to Art. VI. The People may alter or abolish the US Constitution in times of unhappiness. See Federalist No. 78. One way to abolish the US Constitution is to vote for a candidate for President who is ineligible pursuant to Art II.
The Electoral College serves as a check on the vote of the People. The electors may vote faithlessly to prevent the sovereign from electing an ineligible President and voiding the US Constitution. The US Congress is powerless to prevent an ineligible President from assuming the office because the People are sovereign. The People only answer to God.
Orly has a case of national importance. Orly’s plaintiffs were doing everything they could to preserve the US Constitution. The Electoral College is the last chance available to prevent an ineligible President from assuming office and voiding the US Constitution.
The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union was the first national governing document for America. It was repealed and replaced by the US Constitution. Since President Obama repealed the US Constitution due to his ineligibility, the only way to develop a new national governing document is with a national referendum. The People voided the US Constitution. Now, the People must vote in a national referendum to ratify a new constitution.
August 13th, 2015 @ 1:55 pm
And the Oct. 20th is (supposed) to be meaningful in some other respect:…
That (so-called-?) messing with our dollar, as Dr Ron Paul has been talking about!
What are the odds that the court case is going to be on the same day?
Or…is the collapse of the dollar just to cause us concern???
August 13th, 2015 @ 10:15 pm
Wonderful post, Kevin.
I am always in awe of the intelligence
of our posters,
and bewildered by the ignorance of trolls.
It is mind-boggling that someone would come up with such drivel, as poster number 2 has done.
We are not all robots or zombies.
Please learn the fact that our Constitution is here to stay, and when Obama messes with that document, he is messing with his own future …and that isn’t a pretty sight.
With MILLIONS and MILLIONS of other Americans, I can not wait patiently for the end of this usurper. I cannot even bear to look at him or to hear his voice. It is inconceivable that he still sits on his stolen throne and issues mandates to bring down our country, when he, is himself, not even an American, but a foreign object, as Alexander says, a UFO.
Never in the history of this country have we had such a travesty of justice in our government.
And where is the military through all of this?
I am being sarcastic when I say, Partying, traveling, grilling hot dogs and hamburgers, and drawing salaries/pensions, oblivious to the downfall of the country they vowed to defend.”
It is nauseating. What will it take to make them stand at attention, march forward to arrest this intruder?
August 13th, 2015 @ 11:47 pm
Looking at a big picture, trolls do us a service. Should their activities contain fine points of attack, that though off base demonstrate intelligence, then they have granted a forewarning… things to be studied as to their possible uses in the opposite direction. It’s like being sent to school to learn how to counterattack, all for free. I’m sure they feel to be sowing psychological damage. But what is really happening at our end is that perhaps their best arguments are being telegraphed in advance, time enough to learn the logic and destroy it.
August 14th, 2015 @ 10:45 am
Yes Ms Taitz, you should give up the fight.
August 15th, 2015 @ 12:03 pm
Hey, poster #18:…
Yeah, right!
If anyone should give up…it should be you and the squirrel in the WH…!