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Does the propeller of the plane tell a different story about the reason of the crash? Can other pilots an engineers comment on that?

Posted on | December 21, 2013 | 15 Comments

Dr. Orly,

I have sent this pic to pilot friends to get their take on things. The reason being is the prop. One blade is in flat pitch(feather) the other two are bent as if they hit the water with power applied. Hitting the water is almost like striking land.

The point here is the two bent blades indicate that the engine was running when the aircraft landed in the water.

I’ll get back with you if other pilots can add to this. Great work taking control of the Fuddy investigation. There were so many inconsistencies, the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

This is my observation, it’s hard to tell with just a pic to go by.

God Bless America,

Harry Butler

Navy SEAL/Gulfstream Captain

P.S. Lots of redirects logging on to your web site, this seems to happen any time you publish something truthful about the administration.

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15 Responses to “Does the propeller of the plane tell a different story about the reason of the crash? Can other pilots an engineers comment on that?”

  1. Rod Riddle
    December 21st, 2013 @ 5:09 am

    I said the engine didn’t fail from Day 1. That’s why they didn’t want to bring the plane up. The only reason they eventually decided to do so is they were able to get to the NTSB who will tell the Govt story. Here is the proof the story was fabricated. The plane went down. There had yet to be any investigation into what the cause was yet what was the narrative fed to the public? Engine failure. Now what are they telling us? It could be a year to determine the cause. Lies, lies, lies. It was murder!

  2. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    December 21st, 2013 @ 5:20 am

    I am not a pilot and not an engineer:so what do you think happened?

  3. Rod Riddle
    December 21st, 2013 @ 5:32 am

    Controlled ditch landing into the water. With engine failure you would have had a more violent pitch from the nose of the plane causing much more damage. You wouldnt have had a 71 year old man swimming to shore. There would have been folks beaten up with injuries throughout the plane.

  4. Fred Dorsey
    December 21st, 2013 @ 6:13 am

    There is too much conjecture about this aircraft accident. Let the NTSB run the investigation and report their findings, but this may take months.

    The propeller blades were probably damaged by impacting the ocean floor, because this type of aircraft would probably sink nose first. Another possibility is that they were damaged during the recovery of the aircraft and turboprop jet engine.

    The pilot had very little time to set up a glide to the ocean surface at what was probably a flying speed near 120 MPH. A fixed gear type
    of aircraft like the Caravan would impact the ocean waves and swells and come to an abrupt stop, despite the cargo pod on the bottom of the fuselage. It is possible the propeller was still turning, but the jet engine itself was
    coming apart from sort sort of internal failure
    and could no longer produce power.

    I have thirty years of experience as an USAF pilot and commercial airline pilot. I have learned it is better not to let emotions take over and second guess why Fate is the Hunter.

  5. Hawai'ian Lei
    December 21st, 2013 @ 6:15 am

    Not necessarily so, Rod Riddle. Are you a pilot? I am and know for a fact that a landing can be made on water with no engine.

    I looked at the photos and there are no bent blades. When it was in the water, the blades look bent because of the water distorts the image.

    Out of the water, and I went to see the wreckage here after it had been pulled, the blades were bend when they used straps to pull the plane up.

    The fuselage had already come apart from being in the water where the sea was rough. Some of the bending of the blades might have also occurred when the engine hit the bottom. We have corral reefs here and the bottoms are like hard rock. The engine is heavy and the blades would be bent when it hit the bottom.

  6. Glasnost
    December 21st, 2013 @ 6:26 am

    STAGED EVENT PLAIN AND SIMPLE. SHE HAD TO GET LOST TO AVOID TESTIFYING.

  7. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    December 21st, 2013 @ 6:42 am

    how the propellers would be still turning after the plane was gliding for a minute? I am not a pilot and not an engineer but common sense says that it is unlikely. after a minute of no power these heavy propeller blades would not be turning

  8. dr_taitz@yahoo.com
    December 21st, 2013 @ 6:47 am

    are you kidding me? These propeller blades are heavy. Do you want to tell me that this heavy propeller blade can be bent by some strap? really? really?

  9. D
    December 21st, 2013 @ 7:05 am

    When a prop strikes the surface with power (high rotation speed) the prop tips bent forward, the amount of bending can determine the speed of the propeller at impact. It is cause by impacting the surface witch does not compress and as the aircraft is decelerating rapidly causing the prop blades to bend forward by what is called climbing forward on their pitch. Prop blades bend backwards indicates the prop speed was at minimum as without power from engine or windmilling. This particular engine has the means to mechanically feather the propeller in order to reduce drag and gain distance travel during power failure.

  10. Delbert Dummett
    December 21st, 2013 @ 7:20 am

    Can you go to inspect the plane wreckage yourself? Maybe if they allow you to inspect it and have Harry Butler to the inspection, we can know the truth.

  11. D
    December 21st, 2013 @ 8:14 am

    What is strange to me is the lack of pictures, video footage from day one. The serial number placard on that aircraft is very important.

  12. Rod Riddle
    December 21st, 2013 @ 10:58 am

    I ran a search on the Obot spewing disinformation and what do you know he doesn’t even live in Hi. Using some fictitious Hawaiin name. Nothing but a fool.

  13. Christmas Dude
    December 21st, 2013 @ 11:27 am

    I think the experienced pilots have the edge here, with knowing what may have happened.

    Now, let’s also add the experience of Fuddy… she was said to have been alive, wearing her life-preserver, and holding onto Yamamoto. And can the pilots give us some idea as to how lobng it may have taken for the plane to sink?

    And the autopsy is crucial to know what exactly Fuddy died from. And the story is that she floated away? or sank from Yamamoto. Why didn’t ‘moto get her back? or was this another story?

    Too many variables entering the picture…too many angles floating around! If she was killed, the truth will never come out…unless the family can get to the coronor!

  14. Paula Hoehn
    December 21st, 2013 @ 1:22 pm

    Dear Orly,

    Nope, not a sign of the serial number in the wreckage photos. Just parts of a small slice of the very bottom of the fuselage.

    No photos of the tail section where the serial number would be in line with the last window, just before the tail assembly. No sign of the tail assembly.

    There must be lots of parts of this plane still down there.

    To see a photo of this type Cessna at Makanikai Air, with the luggage copartment under the fuselage:

    https://www.makanikaiair.com/images/photos/molo12.jpg

    —————–
    Paula Hoehn

  15. Robert
    December 21st, 2013 @ 6:05 pm

    IF THE AC LANDED ON IT’S BELLY…THE PROPS SHOULD STILL BE INTACKED WITH NO SERIOUS DAMAGE TO IT! BUT THE PICTURES SHOWS IT IS SERIOUSLY DAMAGE…THIS IS ANOTHER ENGINE AND AC PARTS FROM A JUNK YARD!!!!

    OBAMA COVER-UP CRIME AT IT’S WORK AGAIN!

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