Update on motion hearing to compel inspection of Obama’s original birth certificate in the Health Department in HI
Posted on | September 2, 2011 | 87 Comments
Taitz v Astrue Minutes from judge Oke-Mollway
U.S. District Court
District of Hawaii (Hawaii)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 1:11-cv-00519-SOM -RLP
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Taitz v. Astrue Assigned to: JUDGE SUSAN OKI MOLLWAY Referred to: JUDGE RICHARD L. PUGLISI Cause: Civil Miscellaneous Case |
Date Filed: 08/08/2011 Jury Demand: None Nature of Suit: 890 Other Statutory Actions Jurisdiction: U.S. Government Defendant |
| Plaintiff | ||
| Dr. Orly Taitz | represented by | Orly Taitz 29839 Santa Margarita Pkwy, Ste 100 Santa Margarita, CA 92688 (949) 683-5411 Fax: (949) 766-7603 Email: orly.taitz@gmail.com PRO SE |
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| Defendant | ||
| Michael J. Astrue Commissoner of the Social Security Administration |
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| Interested Party | ||
| Loretta Fuddy Director of Health, State of Hawaii |
represented by | Jill T. Nagamine Office of the Attorney General-State of Hawaii Kekuanao’a Building 465 S King St Rm 200 Honolulu, HI 96813 587-3050 Email: Jill.T.Nagamine@hawaii.gov LEAD ATTORNEY ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED Rebecca Estrada Quinn |
| Date Filed | # | Docket Text |
|---|---|---|
| 08/08/2011 | 1 | (Proposed) Order on Ex Parte Emergency MOTION for Emergency Order to Show Cause and to Compel Attendance for Production of Documents and for Attorneys’ Fees and Costs – by Plaintiff Orly Taitz. (Attachments: # 1 Emergency Ex Parte Motion for Emergency Order to Show Cause and to Compel Attendance for Production of Documents and for Attorneys’ Fees and Costs, # 2 Exhibit A, # 3 Exhibit B, # 4 Exhibit C)(emt, ) (Additional attachment(s) added on 8/8/2011: # 5 Exhibit D) (emt, ). (Entered: 08/08/2011) |
| 08/08/2011 | 2 | Filing fee: $ 39, receipt number HI000664 re 1 Ex Parte Emergency MOTION. (emt, ) (Entered: 08/08/2011) |
| 08/08/2011 | 3 | NOTICE of Hearing on 1 MOTION to Compel is set for 9/14/2011 at 10:00 AM in Courtroom 6 before JUDGE RICHARD L. PUGLISI. Plaintiff to provide notice of the hearing to Loretta Fuddy, Health Department, State of Hawaii. (agh)
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICEParticipants registered to receive electronic notifications received this document electronically at the e-mail address listed on the Notice of Electronic Filing (NEF). Participants not registered to receive electronic notifications were served by first class mail on the date of this docket entry. (Entered: 08/08/2011) |
| 08/08/2011 | 4 | EO: The 1 MOTION to Compel will be heard in the normal course. Plaintiff to provide notice of the hearing to be set to all interested parties. (JUDGE RICHARD L. PUGLISI) (agh)
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICEParticipants registered to receive electronic notifications received this document electronically at the e-mail address listed on the Notice of Electronic Filing (NEF). Participants not registered to receive electronic notifications were served by first class mail on the date of this docket entry (Entered: 08/08/2011) |
| 08/22/2011 | 5 | REQUEST for ECF Number – by Orly Taitz. (emt, ) Modified on 8/24/2011 ~ event type modified from “request” to “motion” (emt, ). (Entered: 08/23/2011) |
| 08/23/2011 | 6 | PROOF OF SERVICE – by Orly Taitz. (emt, ) (Entered: 08/23/2011) |
| 08/23/2011 | 7 | PROOF OF SERVICE – by Orly Taitz. (Attachments: # 1 Mailing Documentation)(emt, ) (Entered: 08/24/2011) |
| 08/24/2011 | 8 | NOTICE of Hearing 5 REQUEST for ECF Number :. Motion Hearing set for 8/30/2011 09:00 AM before JUDGE SUSAN OKI MOLLWAY. Parties notified.(tbf, )
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICEParticipants registered to receive electronic notifications received this document electronically at the e-mail address listed on the Notice of Electronic Filing (NEF). Participants not registered to receive electronic notifications were served by first class mail on the date of this docket entry. (Entered: 08/24/2011) |
| 08/24/2011 | NOTICE TO PARTIES. Please be advised that miscellaneous case MC 11-00158 SOM-RLP has been converted to a civil case. Please reflect the new case number CV 11-00519 SOM-RLP on all further filings. (emt, ) (Entered: 08/24/2011) | |
| 08/24/2011 | COURT’S CERTIFICATE of Service – a copy of Notice to Parties Re: Case Number shall be served by First Class Mail to Orly Taitz at the address of record on August 25, 2011. Registered Participants of CM/ECF received the document electronically at the e-mail address listed on the Notice of Electronic Filing (NEF). (emt, ) (Entered: 08/24/2011) | |
| 08/24/2011 | 9 | MEMORANDUM in Opposition to Plaintiff’s Emergency Ex-Parte Motion for Emergency Order to Show Cause and to Compel Attendance for Production of Documents and For Attorney’s Fees and Costs Filed on August 8, 2011 filed by Loretta Fuddy. (Attachments: # 1 Declaration Declaration of Keith Yamamoto, # 2 Declaration Declaration of Jill T. Nagamine, # 3 Exhibit Exhibit A, # 4 Exhibit Exhibit B, # 5 Exhibit Exhibit C)(Quinn, Rebecca) Modified on 8/25/2011 Note: This document is signed by Jill T. Nagamine, Esq. ; e-filed by Rebecca Quinn, Esq. (emt, ). (Entered: 08/24/2011) |
| 08/25/2011 | ADVISORY ENTRY. The entry docket number 9 Memorandum in Opposition to Motion to Plaintiff’s Emergency Ex Parte Motion for Emergency Order to Show Cause and to Compel Attendance for Production of Documents and for Attorney’s Fees and Costs Filed August 8, 2011 filed by Loretta Fuddy was filed incorrectly in this case. Please be advised that because this document is signed by Jill T. Nagamine, her login, and not Rebecca E. Quinn’s should have been used to make the docket entry. Section 5.2 of the Amended General Order Adopting Electronic Case Filing Procedures states “ The name of the ECF User under whose login and password the document is being electronically filed must be preceded by “/s/” and typed in the space where the signature otherwise would appear (e.g. /s/ John Lawyer). No further action necessary. (emt, ) (Entered: 08/25/2011) | |
| 08/25/2011 | 10 | CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE by Loretta Fuddy re 9 Memorandum in Opposition to Motion,, (Quinn, Rebecca) (Entered: 08/25/2011) |
| 08/29/2011 | 11 | EO: 5 MOTION for ECF Number. Motion Hearing set for 8/30/2011 @ 9:00 a.m. is rescheduled to 02:15 PM before JUDGE SUSAN OKI MOLLWAY. Parties notified. (JUDGE SUSAN OKI MOLLWAY)(tbf, )
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICEParticipants registered to receive electronic notifications received this document electronically at the e-mail address listed on the Notice of Electronic Filing (NEF). Participants not registered to receive electronic notifications were served by first class mail on the date of this docket entry (Entered: 08/29/2011) |
| 08/30/2011 | 12 | EP: Request for ECF Number 5 -Ms. Taitz informed the Court that she already has an ECF number.Court instructs Ms. Taitz to go onto the Courts website and follow the procedures.Ms. Nagamine informed the Court that the underlying case in the District of Columbia (CV 11-402) was dismissed. Ms. Taitz informed the Court that she will be filing a motion for reconsideration.Discussion held re: Motion to Compel Attendance for Production of Documents and For Attorneys’ Fees and Costs set for 9/14/11 before Magistrate Puglisi – This hearing is continued to 11/21/11 @ 9:30 a.m. RLP in light of plaintiff disclosing that she will be filing a motion for reconsideration. Any reply to be filed by 9/16/11.Ms. Taitz to inform the Court asap if a decision is not filed re: her motion for reconsideration by 10/26/11.If Ms. Taitz will not file a motion for reconsideration, she is to file a statement.terminating 5 Motion ; 1 MOTION to Compel, 5 MOTION for ECF Number ; Motion Hearing held on 8/30/2011 re 1 MOTION to Compel filed by Orly Taitz, 5 MOTION for ECF Number filed by Orly Taitz. Motion Hearing set for 11/21/2011 09:30 AM before JUDGE RICHARD L. PUGLISI. (Court Reporter Debra Chun.) (JUDGE SUSAN OKI MOLLWAY)(tbf, )No COS issued for this docket entry (Entered: 08/30/2011) |
| 09/02/2011 | 13 | TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings Request for ECF Number held on 8/30/11 before Judge Susan Oki Mollway. Court Reporter Debra Chun, Telephone number 808 534-0667. Transcript may be viewed at the court public terminal or ordered through the Court Reporter before the deadline for Release of Transcript. Remote availability of electronic transcripts is regulated by FRCP 5.2(a), FRCrP 49.1(a), and FRBP 9037(a). Redaction Request due 9/20/2011. Redacted Transcript Deadline set for 9/30/2011. Release of Transcript Restriction set for 11/28/2011. (dc@hid.uscourts.gov) pp. 11. (Entered: 09/02/2011) |
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September 2nd, 2011 @ 10:47 pm
Lambert got you good didn’t he Orly… DENIED! Obama is using a genuine social security number.
September 3rd, 2011 @ 7:25 am
I read the transcript of proceedings by phone on August 30, 20011 in which you told the judge
the following:
“this is probably the most important case which
you will ever have in your career and most important case ever existed in history of this nation” Lines 14-16, page 6
Are you comparing your FOIA case to those United States Supreme Court decisions that shaped our nation’s history, as such, Marbury v. Madison, Dred Scott v. Standford, Plessey v. Ferguson, Brown v. Board of Education, Roe v. Wade?
Please explain how can a District Judge in Hawaii who is hearing your case can rule in your favor if the District Judge in D.C. ruled in favor of the Defendant’s in his Motion for Summary Judgment?
September 3rd, 2011 @ 9:25 am
Lamberth is a criminal. He should go to prison.
September 3rd, 2011 @ 11:24 am
I would think that Judge Lamberth’s ruling now makes the Hawaii case mute.
Orly, do you not understand the law? You cannot see the original birth records. Not now, not ever. Judge Lamberth said so. What part of that don’t you get.
Your cruisin’ for more sanctions.
September 3rd, 2011 @ 12:34 pm
@Obama Rocks,
No Judge or Social Security employee has ever said that Obama is using a genuine SSN. The Social Security Administration’s own SSN validation system says “NO RECORD” for the SSN Obama used on his Selective Service Registration Form.
September 3rd, 2011 @ 12:37 pm
@Obama Rocks,
No Judge or Social Security employee has ever said that Obama is using a genuine SSN. As a matter of fact the Social Security Administration’s online SSN validation system says “NO RECORD” for the SSN Obama used on his Selective Service Registration Form.
September 3rd, 2011 @ 12:38 pm
All,
Sorry and/or my bad for the duplicate post.
September 3rd, 2011 @ 12:48 pm
@Atticus Finch,
Please explain how verifying that a sitting POTUS/CINC is eligible to serve or not does not trump any/all the case you mentioned?
September 3rd, 2011 @ 12:57 pm
jUDGES ARE CORRUPT LIKE THIS JACKASS AND OBAMAS ASS SNIFFING IDIOTS LIKE ON THIS POST IS VERY SICKING !!
September 3rd, 2011 @ 1:59 pm
The lying Obot scum have an alleged transcript of the hearing in Hawaii up on their website (I won’t dignify it by putting it’s name here). And it’s obviously another forgery. Everything out of Hawaii is a forgery.
The judge in Hawaii obviously said your case was still alive and on November 21st will order that Fuddy is in contempt for disobeying a court order that she produce whatever she had about Obama. And since she had nothing, CHECKMATE!
Long live Orly Taitz!
September 3rd, 2011 @ 3:12 pm
@Obama Sucks
Amazing. You want to send a man to prison for upholding the law and the Constitution that you claim to care so much about.
September 3rd, 2011 @ 3:13 pm
Dear Atticus Finch.
I’m so sorry that it seems unimportant to you that the person sitting in the White House is an illegitimate and fraudulent occupant who has thrown this country into a Constitutional crisis the likes of which has never been experienced in the history of this country.
And, just in case it escapes you, every action taken, since January 20, 2009, by this usurper is VOID and of no legitimacy. His VOID actions include every executive order signed, every piece of legislation signed — including obamacare, every cabinet appointment made, every illegitimate czar appointed, every rule and regulation issued in his name, every treaty signed and every appointment to every court in the land including Kagan and Sotomayor.
We are being fiscally destroyed with unprecedented debt and suffocated with the elimination of our Constitutional freedoms — by dictatorial ‘fiat’ — that has marginalized the legislative branch of Congress into irrelevancy through circumvention of the Constitutional legislative process.
We are in the middle of a fraudulent Imperial presidency/dictatorship that is determined to transform American into a third world irrelevancy that will be insolvent and bankrupt within five years — and the survival of our country isn’t important to you?????????
September 3rd, 2011 @ 6:14 pm
Judge Lamberth’s ruling now makes the Hawaii case mute?
Orly, can you explain how the case could go forward? I am on your side! Please explain in words non-lawyers could understand.
September 3rd, 2011 @ 6:33 pm
ITS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT A FEDERAL JUDGE LIKE LAMBERT DID THIS REVERSAL. THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN THE USA FOR THIS KIND OF THING. OBAMA IS COMMANDER IN CHIEF FOR THIS TIME ONLY HE WILL BE VOTED OUT PRETTY SOON. TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE AGAINST HIM. THIS FEDERAL JUDGE IS A LEGAL CROOK AND PART OF A BIG CONSPIRACY. I HOPE PERRY GETS THE PRESIDENCY AND RETIRES ALL THESE CROOKED FEDERAL JUDGES.
September 3rd, 2011 @ 7:10 pm
In your DREAMS RJ!
September 4th, 2011 @ 12:33 am
the case is not over until I submit my motion for reconsideration, the department of justice responds and the judge rules on it
there are a number of other things, that can be done, I will not explaint all of them until the right time
September 4th, 2011 @ 1:26 am
Are you part of the cover-up, Dr. Taitz?
Please prove you are not.
September 4th, 2011 @ 3:34 am
My, my, my! ObaMao’s supporters are squirming and moaning, aren’t they? They are so afraid that they just don’t know what to do!
Prepare to be crushed idiots! You’re fraud of a president and his Marxist cohorts will be taken out of office real soon, preferably in handcuffs.You see there are some little things called facts, that you dummys have so much trouble with. No amount of crying, lying, or wishing will make them go away. Sorry to say it, but your play time is up. The adults are taking back over.
Obama is a failure and a crook. His policy’s are in the toilet, and his personal records are total crap! Time to flush him and all of his minions away where they belong!
September 4th, 2011 @ 3:53 am
@Francis Black,
Dispicable. Obama sent a highly decorated US Army officer to prison, gave him a “Less than Honorable” discharge and revoked his retirement benefits because that officer honored the Oath of Office he took to uphold, protect and defend the U.S. Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
September 4th, 2011 @ 3:54 am
@pi314,
3.14 = your IQ.
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:22 am
@ RJ
No, Obama did not do any of that. Lakin managed that all by himself by violating the oath he took. Even assuming Obama is ineligible to hold the office of president, Lakin’s orders were lawful, according to the law, law which has been in existence for a very long time, long before Obama.
Lakin pled guilty to three of his charges, stating under oath that he knew his orders were lawful, that he knew it at the time he disobeyed them, and he disobeyed them regardless. He was convicted of the fourth, missing movement.
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:50 am
he was railroaded by his attorney, it is a shame
September 4th, 2011 @ 7:24 am
@Paul Jackson
Then why was Lakin denied discovery by the judge?
September 4th, 2011 @ 7:27 am
So you’re saying Lakin lied under oath at his court martial?
September 4th, 2011 @ 8:03 am
I too believe that, Orly. The moment I heard the attorney speaking on Hannity I knew Lakin was doomed. Lakin, too, sounded uncertain and defeated from the start. It was very sad to watch that slow train wreck.
September 4th, 2011 @ 8:09 am
he did not lie, he got poor legal advise
September 4th, 2011 @ 9:54 am
Today after church I spoke to a county Sheriff. He knows Obama is Ineligible and fraud. I believe he and thousands like him will uphold their oath to the Constitution rather than allow the fraud to run again. Americans will defend our Constitution. Thank you Dr. Taitz for your courageous service to our nation.
September 4th, 2011 @ 10:39 am
@RacerJim: Lakin was not a highly decorated military officer. He had less awards than one would expect for someone of his rank. His highest award was a non-valor Bronze Star, which is handed out to most officers in the rank of CPT or above who finish a deployment. He also has no combat action badge, which means he was never in combat or evenly remotely near an attack.
September 4th, 2011 @ 10:58 am
Getting back to the real crime;
Obama lied under oath at his swearing in ceremony!
September 4th, 2011 @ 12:36 pm
So, you say Lakin didn’t lie, but he had bad legal advice. That means good legal advice would have had him lie?
September 4th, 2011 @ 1:33 pm
his attorney gave him poor legal advise, stating that Obama’s orders were legal. Lakin relied on poor legal advice of Puckett and can and probably should sue Puckett for legal malpractice.
Puckett wrongly adviced him, that Obama’s orders were legal. In fact obama was never a legitimate commander in chief, he was always a complete fraud and a criminal and his orders were never legal.
September 4th, 2011 @ 3:13 pm
So you are saying that Lakin did not understand the following question:
MC [military judge]: … Your plea will not be accepted unless you realize that, by your plea, you admit every act or omission, and every element, of the offenses for which you’ve pled guilty, and that you are pleading guilty because you are actually, in fact, guilty if you do not believe that you are guilty, you should not, for any reason, plead guilty.
Do you understand what I said so far?
ACC [accused, i.e., Lakin]: Yes, Your Honor.
IOW, the court also gave him advice. When told that he should not plead guilty if he did not believe he was guilty, Lakin said he understood that. Then he pled guilty.
September 4th, 2011 @ 3:41 pm
The OBOTS’ arguments are getting lamer and lamer. They are like Obama… the more they talk, the deeper the hole gets.
September 4th, 2011 @ 3:55 pm
You were there and you sat right behind me
You saw what went on. Puckett gave poor advice to Lakin, telling him that Obama’s orders were lawful.
That brought about statement, that he disobeyed “lawful” orders.
Lakin has a valid malpractice case against Puckett and a valid case for overturning the decision of the court.
I have no doubt, that after Obama is exposed for the criminal that he is and prosecuted, Lakin’s case will be overturned, Lakin will be reinstated in the military with full pension and benefits and will be compensated.
Additionally, he was not given an opportunity to provide any defense on the merits.
This was not a trial, it was a farse. It was worse, than Soviet Union. You should be ashamed of this farse. You know Obama is a fraud without any papers. So, why are you defending him? Money? how much? Ideology? Far left socialism? Gay rights? What prompted you to sell out your country?
September 4th, 2011 @ 4:10 pm
MJ: When you made the decision to disobey the order, had you been advised by both Mr. Jensen and Major Kemkes that you would be disobeying a lawful order?
ACC: Yes, ma’am.
September 4th, 2011 @ 4:46 pm
Obama is innocent until proven guilty. He is legitimate until proven otherwise, and that has not happened, despite all of the bloviating here and on other wingnut sites.
September 4th, 2011 @ 5:23 pm
@ Former AF JAG
Lakin’s previous defense councel, before Puckett, Paul Jenson, sought discovery of documents , and to introduce evidence and expert witnesses, but the judge shut down all those efforts.
During the hearing, Judge Lind censored the last remaining arguments that Lakin planned to make in his defense: motive and duty. Lakin had intended to explain his motive for disobeying the order, and contend that his duty as a good soldier, was to disobey the orders he believed to be illegal.
Lind also rejected defense requests to call as witnesses Ambassador Alan Keyes and retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney. Keyes was to explain the constitutional issues involved in the case, and McInerney was to talk about the training soldiers receive regarding when they should question and even disobey orders.
Stripped by the court of all possible defenses that might have justified his actions, Lakin had no chance of prevailing in trial, so he folded in order to save himself.
Judge Lind “declared” that Lakin’s orders were legitimate, without addressing the underlying eligibility issue, and ruled to limit the scope of the trial to the narrow question of whether Lakin had knowingly disobeyed orders.
Do you call this justice? I have absolutely no respect for you if you do.
What I call that is a railroad job, plain and simple, because Terry Lakin was denied the right of defense by a corrupt system that now seems to have the full support of a Former AF JAG.
September 4th, 2011 @ 5:35 pm
I was under the impression that Judge Lind had already ruled that the orders were legal. If Puckett had advised Lakin to continue to insist the orders were illegal in spite of the ruling, don’t you think he was risking the chance of much greater punishment?
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:38 pm
punishment was given by the officers of the court martial, not by Lind
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:46 pm
It’s true. But they were aware that the judge had ruled the orders to be legal. Lakin could have antagonized the jury by disregarding the judge’s ruling and claiming the orders were legal anyway.
September 4th, 2011 @ 6:47 pm
(sorry, meant *illegal*)
September 4th, 2011 @ 8:57 pm
All officers and enlisted soldiers are taught to obey all lawful orders. That is by military law. They are also taught to disobey unlawful orders, which is also by military law (UCMJ). pResident Obama is ineligible for the Office of the President, which makes all orders executed under him, unlawful. Terrence Lakin did the right thing. He will be exonerated. Thank-you Orly for your tenacity, perseverance, and courage! God Bless You Mightily!
September 5th, 2011 @ 7:41 am
I have said this for many months – however it was best stated by another commenter; Pete. I will post his conclusion:
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From commenter Pete:
No expert can verify an internet document as legitimate, but you can declare it a fraud. Hawaiian law states that public display of private records removes the Hawaiian obligation to protect them. Simply put, if Obama displays his Birth Certificate copy on the internet or on a Federal Government website, he has no right to privacy.
Here are undisputed facts:
1. The Federal Government, via the Executive Branch, has published a Document they claim is Obama’s Hawaiian BC. Not disputed.
2. There is no legal chain of Custody for the document published by the White House.
3. The DoH (Department of Health) in Hawaii REFUSED a legal subpoena to review the Document by experts in person after pre-arrangements had been made.
Obviously the Hawaiian DoH has acted appropriately in this case because the information on the White House site does not match DoH records. Specifically, they are obligated to continue to protect the privacy of Obama since his actual records have not been released and seen by the public, or contain information confirming late birth registration.
Further, Judge Lambert’s recent ruling, in contrary to other national judges and Obama senate campaign (the Ryan Divorce documents) has declared that a politician has the right to privacy. That privacy must be given for certain vital records per national law, but that privacy is null and void if the individual make them public (puts on internet).
I don’t think it could be more clear that Obama has privacy laws protecting him as he has NOT released a legitimate copy of his COLB or long form Birth Certificate. What the public has seen is not what is in the record, or he wouldn’t be protected.
___________________________________
At the least, the DOH should be force to admit that there is a difference of their records and what the WH released, reason to continue to protect privacy.
September 5th, 2011 @ 8:09 am
Pertaining to LtC Lakin,
I am no JAG Attorney or an Attorney at all, but there are serious questions unanswered and apparently avoided. I don’t know whether to label it as legal gibberish or simply garbage in – garbage out or positionally complete avoidance of the answer(s) sought.
My question would be; what is a “lawful order”?
It is an easy thing to say, lawful order. Repeated over and over again, it even resonates. Lawful order. But what is it? How is it implemented? Who must obey a lawful order and who defines it? What court and which judge throughout our Country? Who is the final arbitrator to declare a lawful order?
I can personally think of many laws that were implemented with possible good intentions, yet challenged and eventually overturn at the Supreme Court level. Were they lawful? Certainly at the time prior to overturning, yes, as one could argue.
How easy history of military laws are forgotten. Did the Nuremberg trials not teach the world a harsh lesson of officers blinding following lawful orders without questioning nor challenging? Such officers blind faith of lawful orders resulted in their hangings.
Is abortion legal? Certainly. Can a Circuit court judge order an individual to have an abortion, a so called lawful order issued? Again, yes he certainly can. What happens if disobeyed? It would be a violation of the Judges lawful order issued and could result in jail time. Is that it? Or in the alternative, the defendants attorney address and challenge the order itself? I say its the latter.
Any Judge can deem an order lawful, that doesn’t necessarily make it one, even if the defendant agrees.
September 5th, 2011 @ 8:18 am
Last thought,
If EVERY order in the United States is lawful, then why the hell do we have so many Attorneys in this Country challenging laws if all orders of law are in fact lawful to begin with?
September 5th, 2011 @ 8:42 am
Orly, I have followed you since the beginning, and I cheer for you no end. However, it is very clear that you can not find a criminal using a system the criminal controls.
For all your effort, time, and money, for the danger you risk, I would love to see you have a bigger impact.
I would suggest you stop the one woman war and turn your platform towards organizing. The only thing that will wake up America is inconvenience. There are millions of us who know Obama is a criminal, as are many others behind him. We need to band together and SHUT DOWN. When banks don’t open, cable TV doesn’t work, food doesn’t get delivered to the stores, and buses don’t run, America will HAVE to deal with the usurpation of our government.
Right now, you are at the mercy of the courts’ schedules. They have stalled and stalled for years now. We need THEM to be on OUR schedule. It’s time for us to remember a Truth that has become just a cliche: We don’t work for them. They work for us.
September 5th, 2011 @ 9:23 am
@Paul Jackson
FACT #1: As Commander In Chief (“CINC”) of the military Obama did in fact do all of that by not stopping any of it.
FACT #2: Lt Col. Lakin did not violate the Oath of Office he took, exactly the opposite in fact. The Oath he took required him to uphold, defend and protect the U.S. Constitution ONLY — not one word requiring him to obey any order from any superior Officer, CINC, POTUS, SCOTUS, Congress, Judge or anyone else — an Oath that has been around for a long time, a very long time, a very long time before Obama was just a twinkle in his father’s eye…whoever his father is.
FACT #3: During the year preceding his refusal to obey his redeployment orders, Lt Col. Lakin personally wrote everyone up his military Chain of Command (including CINC Obama) and all of his Congressional representatives hoping someone would verify that the person ultimately responsible for those orders being issued, CINC Obama vis-a-vis the troop “surge” he ordered, had the authority to do so — all to no avail.
FACT #4: If Obama is ineligible to serve as POTUS/CINC then he did not have lawful/legal authority to order the troop “surge” (the order which spawned Lt Col. Lakin’s redeployment orders), therefore Lt Col. Lakin’s redeployment orders would have been unlawful/illegal.
FACT #5: During a pre-trial hearing, Courts Martial Judge Lind ruled that POTUS/CINC Obama was not up Lt. Col. Lakin’s Chain of Command and, therefore, that Lt. Col. Lakin could not base his defense on Obama’s eligibility/lack thereof — the very thing Lt. Col. Lakin tried for a year to have someone verify before refusing any order — effectively denying Lt. Col. Lakin the ability to substantiate his reasoning for disobeying his redeployment orders. Of course, hanging in the Court house lobby were photos of the military Chain of Command — all the way up to POTUS/CINC Obama.
FACT #6: Faced with multiple convictions and long-term imprisonment for same, Lt Col. Lakin put his family ahead of his convictions and effectively put himself at the mercy of the Court.
FACT #7: If Obama wants us to believe that the long-form birth certificate he released on April 27th is in fact authentic then he could have prevented all the above by simply providing a photocopy of it to anyone up Lt. Col. Lakin’s Chain of Command, any of Lt. Col. Lakin’s Congressional reprentatives or Lt. Col. Lakin himself when the latter requested same.
September 5th, 2011 @ 9:31 am
you are welcome to help by organizing. call me 949-683-5411. I tell everybody: talk is cheap. if you feel, that it is possible to get a greater impact via organizing, do it
September 5th, 2011 @ 10:01 am
Any and all actions by Attorneys and Courts are nothing more than “false hope” at best and complicity at worst.
The continuance of these actions only prolongs the oppression of American Citizens.
It is evident that resolution is only now possible from Military Intervention with the consent and support of the American People.
I doubt that is likely, due to the distraction of all this Attorney and Courtroom nonsense.
Serve your Country, just shut up and stay home.
September 5th, 2011 @ 10:08 am
@Julia M.,
It would behoove you to know something about that which you speak before you speak and make a complete, total and utter ass out of yourself. Then again, that’s SOP for liberals and especially Obama minions.
20 military service awards and decorations, including “Combat Medical Award” sounds highly-decorated to me, especially since your little military service rejecting combat avoiding boy wonder has 0.
GTH.
September 5th, 2011 @ 10:18 am
My compliments to William and Racer Jim again!
I like to see hardcore facts that galvanize our position in Obama’s fraud, and I would welcome them from the other side if they had any. But, an overwhelming number of the Obots’ comments are just drivel. They are usually blind attempts to smear Orly, or back Obama’s and his minions’ obfuscations of the truth.
It seems to me, more and more people read these posts than let on. When discussions like these are left on top for awhile, we can all learn something by sticking with them and following the comments by those that participate. This knowledge is very powerful and is a great asset to our fight.
As far as organizing, it is already being done by some very able people. This is called the Birther Summit, which will be held in Washington D.C. next March.
I expect a few million people will be there six months from now, to splash this fraud all over the headlines, unless one of Orly’s court efforts succeeds at this first!
Much thanks to Orly Taitz for her perseverance to get to the bottom of this mess. Without her and her undying patriotism, I’m afraid most of us would be in the dark about this atrocity in the White House.
September 5th, 2011 @ 10:23 am
Sounds like Puckett got his degree online. Lakin never had a chance.
September 5th, 2011 @ 10:31 am
Stephen Giessinger,
What the hell are you talking about? Your post makes no sense. Which side are you on? Or are you just totally confused?
How can we just sit around and wait for the military to do something? You know what they did to Terry Lakin, so how do you have any confidence they will do any better in the future.
Orly is the tip of the spear my friend, and the sooner you realize this, the sooner you will see that what you have just written, is the worthless “drivel” I have been talking about.
September 5th, 2011 @ 11:25 am
Stephen,
With all due respect, the U.S. Military and especially the Joint Chiefs of Staff, are complacent and derelict of duty to say the least. To rely upon those that seek nothing more than a retirement and fine office of status, is not the answer.
Only when the people have had enough of dictatorship, tyranny, up-rise and and with force – when all peaceful options fail – will there be correction of corruption from the federal government.
Count the Military out, they are without honor, integrity nor oath of office to uphold the Constitution. Such words are meaningless to them. I doubt that many officers have even read the Constitution of the United States to begin with, little lone understand it and their oath to protect it against Domestic Enemies.
September 5th, 2011 @ 11:40 am
Racer Jim, RE: @Paul Jackson; Thank-you for taking the time to clearly and factually re-state the circumstance regarding LTC Terrence Lakin and the Military’s Oath to defend (Only)the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Not only are military personel called to uphold this Oath, but ALL military personel are also subject to military law (UCMJ) that is taught at the beginning and throughout their careers. They must obey lawful orders, and they must disobey unlawful orders (according to the UCMJ, Geneva-Hague Convention). To restate for Paul Jackson, pResident Obama has taken the position of the Office of the President and thereby as Commander in Chief while knowingly ineligible for that office. Hence, every order given by this fraudulent, felonious, and Treasonous criminal as President and as Commander in Chief is illegal and null and void. Thank-you again Orly, and supporters, as we are gratefully indepted to your tenacity and perseverance in seeking the truth, justice and liberty! God Bless you and protect you Mightily!
September 5th, 2011 @ 1:04 pm
Dr Orly, we admire you and are with you in the unrelenting persistence. This perseverance, and dedication will earn you a unique place in the history of our nation, and the world. Above the traitors.
About the match: The game is rigged and the opposite team is also the owner of the ball, can’t win until the big public at the whole big stadium knows it, then forces the referee to get the Big rules book.
No other than our Constitution.
September 5th, 2011 @ 5:45 pm
Most politicians have headinthesand syndrome. They dont want to deal with it. Who wants to be the one to be known as taking down the first white/black president. So called
September 6th, 2011 @ 1:01 am
The Truth & William
I understand and share your concern. However unlike yourselves I have no faith in the American Court System on this issue. More than enough opportunity has been availed upon the Courts to address this issue and they have chosen not to.
We are not dealing with “Magic” here. There are no special words to be discovered and laid before some Court somewhere to cause the results we seek. The needed words have already been submitted and spoken several times with no resolution.
William stated, “Only when the people have had enough of dictatorship, tyranny, up-rise and and with force – when all peaceful options fail – will there be correction of corruption from the federal government.”
My point is that I believe Orly’s efforts to resolve this issue also affords complacency on the part of the American Public. As long as Orly and others continue to approach the Courts people will set back (perhaps as they should) and wait for the “Magic” to happen.
I have no delusions about our Military leadership.
Personally, I believe the answer will come when the American Public stop what they are doing and go to their State Capitals. We will regain what we have lost by reclaiming our State Governments and our State Sovereignty first.
Obama is a temporary symptom of a much larger American Problem. We need to deal with the real problem, State by State and then as a Nation.
September 6th, 2011 @ 7:37 am
@Pat,
Thanks ^5
Just for the record, not all U.S. military personel take the same Oath, to wit:
Oath of Enlistment (non-officer)
“I, (first name, mi, last name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foriegn and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
Oath of Office (officer)
“I, (first name, mi, last name), having been appointed a (rank) in the United States (branch of service), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foriegn and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the office upon which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
You are, of course, correct that the UCMJ requires all military personnel to obey lawful orders while at the same time requiring all military personel to disobey unlawful orders — and since the military justice system is the arbitrator of lawful/unlawful orders military personnel are in a quandry if/when they are given an order which they are not sure is lawful/unlawful. Strict obedience to any/all orders, lawful/unlawful, didn’t fly during the Nuremburg Trials (Nazi Officer war crimes), during the Courts Martial of U.S. Army Lt Cally (Me Lai masacre) or during the Courts Martial(s) of several U.S Army enlisted pesonnel prison guards (Abu Gharib).
Of all the military personnel involved with his Courts Martial, directly or indirectly, Lt. Col. Lakin is the only one who honored the Oath of Office he took.
September 6th, 2011 @ 7:50 am
Well said Braulio!//@Truthbrtold, One just did. NH State Representative, Harry Accornero (4th) is the first elected Official in the US to publically declare pResident Obama in commission of Treason. (Sept 04, 11) Now the details of which, and where that all goes has not yet been spelled out.
September 6th, 2011 @ 4:37 pm
Thank you PRicha for the news
NH St.Rep.Harry Accornero then has the honor of being the first to call it for what it is.
Is high noon to start using the “t” word,
for all to follow, need to move the people to the crude reality we face.
September 7th, 2011 @ 5:55 am
Obama will never get re-elected because he will not run for a second term.He is going to get while the getting is good.His ship is sinking and he is getting his life boat ready.
September 7th, 2011 @ 7:59 am
Thank you NH State Representative Accornero!
“And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a
study in black and white of my fingerprints. And the only reason I’m
singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar
situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a
situation like that there’s only one thing you can do and that’s walk into
the shrink wherever you are ,just walk in say “Shrink, You can get
anything you want, at Alice’s restaurant.”. And walk out. You know, if
one person, just one person does it they may think he’s really sick and
they won’t take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they’re both faggots and they won’t take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice’s Restaurant and walking out. They may think it’s an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice’s Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it’s a movement.
And that’s what it is , the Alice’s Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and
all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come’s around on the
guitar.
With feeling. So we’ll wait for it to come around on the guitar, here and
sing it when it does. Here it comes.
You can get anything you want, at Alice’s Restaurant
You can get anything you want, at Alice’s Restaurant
Walk right in it’s around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want, at Alice’s Restaurant
That was horrible. If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
I’ve been singing this song now for twenty five minutes. I could sing it
for another twenty five minutes. I’m not proud… or tired.
So we’ll wait till it comes around again, and this time with four part
harmony and feeling.
We’re just waitin’ for it to come around is what we’re doing.
All right now.
You can get anything you want, at Alice’s Restaurant
Excepting Alice
You can get anything you want, at Alice’s Restaurant
Walk right in it’s around the back
Just a half a mile from the railroad track
You can get anything you want, at Alice’s Restaurant
Da da da da da da da dum
At Alice’s Restaurant”
— “Alice’s Resturant”, Arlo Guthrie, 1966
September 7th, 2011 @ 11:03 am
All the Judges are afarid of this case there must be one someware that is not.
Where did the Democrats find a Judge to order Nixon to release the tapes that did him in.
September 7th, 2011 @ 2:17 pm
It is obvious by some of the comments on this blog, that some people, fans of Obama, are anxious to throw the Constitution down the toilet because they are incapable of living by the law and they are anxious to keep us all in line much like the SS of Nazi Germany. They can’t wait to push Patriots into a gas chamber. Well guess what, the U.S. won in WW II with a lot of deaths for our freedom and the Nazis who are in favor of letting Obama has his way will lose too. The man is going down and into a prison, Period!
September 7th, 2011 @ 6:34 pm
These are the times that try men souls. Trust in the lord and he has never lost a battle and never will
September 7th, 2011 @ 10:11 pm
I do not care what Limbaugh predicts re: Rubio as future Prez. I do not want a 2nd ineligible President of our country!!!
September 8th, 2011 @ 7:41 am
Given the plethora of treasonous acts against the U.S. Constitution Obama has committed he has more than earned the ultimate punishment therefor — execution. His family should be required to reimburse the Federal government for all any/all costs incurred by the Federal government on behalf of him and/or his family while he was illegally serving as POTUS/CINC and not be entitled to any retirement benefits.
September 8th, 2011 @ 3:05 pm
@RacerJim,
It is illegal to threaten the President of the United States with death. I hope you have a knock on your door from either the FBI or the United States Secret Service this evening for your obvious threat of violence against the President and his family.
September 8th, 2011 @ 8:42 pm
Thought for the day….
“we shall seek the truth and endure the consrquences.”
September 9th, 2011 @ 11:53 pm
Peter B,
Uhhhh…..the punishment for treason is death.
You must have been absent that day in school.
September 20th, 2011 @ 6:46 am
can somebody please tell me what happened at the 9/14/2011 hawaii court case , sopoena of abamas BC?
September 20th, 2011 @ 6:51 am
it was postponed
state court case will be on October 12th
federal court case will be November 21st
November 16th, 2011 @ 9:17 pm
Well it’s almost the 21st so let’s see what happens next. Why all the secrecy still? Show the damn original.
Some of the obots posting on here need to take a comprehension test because they sure don’t comprehend………
This hearing is continued to 11/21/11 @ 9:30 a.m. RLP in light of plaintiff disclosing that she will be filing a motion for reconsideration.
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