what do you think?
Posted on | June 20, 2009 | 17 Comments
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Submitted on 2009/06/19 at 10:17pm
The long post from MP is excellent and raises a good question: can thousands of military members go together in a group to the White House and demand Obama’s documentation? These could be retired military. If they all banded together in uniform and literally walked down Pennsylvania Avenue and demanded a hearing with the Usurper for his documentation, why wouldn’t that work? |
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June 20th, 2009 @ 1:50 am
A fund should be set up to where folks could donate money to such an ‘event.’
That’s the least that those who aren’t in uniform could do for those that do/did.
It may make a decision by some in uniform, easier, if they aren’t financially burdened with transportation and/or hotel costs….in addition to such a brave act as literally walking down PA avenue and showing up in front of the White House demanding to see his proof!
June 20th, 2009 @ 2:14 am
That’s a good idea.
It may well attract some MSM attention.
June 20th, 2009 @ 3:57 am
The people to contact for this is Oath Keepers. Their Email Address is OathKeepersOK@gmail.com . They are an organization of active and inactive Military and Police. Their membership is quite large.
There blog address is: https://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/
June 20th, 2009 @ 8:51 am
Because there aren’t enough that believe what you do?
June 20th, 2009 @ 9:21 am
They would arrest the vets and call them domestic terrorists. Next they would call them mentally ill for believing that Obama is not qualified. The Media would go along and convince the American People that those vets were crazy domestic terrorists and the American People would believe and accept that. I do not see it as a positive thing but It would be interesting.
June 20th, 2009 @ 9:31 am
Better than that, our Military (and I know they know Obama is usurping the office, at least the officers do) why cant our military remove him with force. They swore to uphold the constitution from foreign and domestic violence. Nobama has committed treason so why will they not do thier duty as they swore in their oath to do and remove this pest because of fraud and treason.
June 20th, 2009 @ 10:06 am
Tell New England,
coz it would get people killed and/or put in jail
June 20th, 2009 @ 10:16 am
I think what New England Patriot is suggesting here is really a refinement of some things I have said, and to soime extent what orly said in a moment of pique and frustration since assuaged some.
There can be a mix in thoughts on variations on an essentially military presence in form and reality. I suggested if I remember correctly a first march focused and intent on delivering the right message to the Usuper.
The refinement here would be vets in uniform and families of vets–a very important inclusion, because i can assure you active member of military are viewing these postings and so are their relatives and friends.
The underlying point is that any showing in washington cannot be a waste of time nor play into the hands of these clever pier6 chicago community organizers ( Pier 6 is a NYC expression). The Tax parties were tepid and oh sooo gentlemanly, this cannot be the case with a march of conviction that has to be prepared for all contingencies. I am speaking of a FIRST march of announcement–deadly serious and focused and intent on telling this BUM and his claque toi step down.
They won’t step down and they will defy the march and the left commie american press will back them to the hilt–but negative comment has to be water off the ducks back of resolve. Watch the movie Gandi and learn the poper manner of a peaceful march with powerful meaning and intent.
Where New england patrioy refined my thinking was in a uniformed presence at the FIRST washington march–brilliant idea- for I was reswerving that for the SECOND march of a constitutionally ordain militia slinging arms BUT in sufficient numbers to resist standard reactions.
But to return. The FIRST march can have a strong military band of brothers standing firm and stalwart in their demands and pronouncements. However the well funded—–
I think the Usurper gave his hitler youth organization ACCORN $3 billion dollars to harass and harangue aside from handling the census ( the damned brass of this man–and right under our noise he gives us the bird with a wry and sacrcastic smile– complacent son of a bitch has to be knocked down a notch or two wouldn’t you say?)—–
BUt yes, a strong military presence of retired brave souls , families of active members – many families in military have a tradition of multi generation servce ( McCain poor mental soul that he now is came from stirling lines).
Barry et al fear one thing more than anything: The fear the military side arm staying holstered when he calls upon it to be drawn. My powerful sense of it as mentioned before is that the military does not like this man at all and all the bullshit he is tossing about all over the place. BUt they aremaking a point as in those that orly represents–and God knows how many others– that I cannot serve under a pretender or usurper that refuses to provide doicumentation as to his qualificiations and attacks at tax payer expense all those that dare to challenge him. In plain language he is a no good bastard thatdeserves NO respect because he is a man who has no honor and no experience and likes to play games with people heads. he is absolutely driven by maniacal urges and immediately confronts any opposition with full cooperation of our Communist china american press. He has a bull dfrap book written for him–Dreams of my Father–a father who was a drunk and bigamist and who deserted him and his mother – now he wants to advise fathers to be better than his was–this guy is a jerk–what the hell is he doing as our president bringing this country to its knees???!!!!
And I will state this, inevitably and probably too late– as in catching the thief after the bank has been emptied- he will self destruct or self implode around the point that Hitler killed himself in a bunker in a berlin in ruins. Do we want this to happen to our country–USA in ruins? Well, we are well on our way. He lied to and with fools and sycophants and stole the presdiency with complete complicity of the press and media–lefty bastards that they are.
Soon as this BUM legalizes 30,000,000 illegals this country will unzip worsde than the viet nam era and he will do so with the sole idea or their voting for him like “idee amin dada president for life.”
The egg is leaking and the crach will soon inevitably widen, and the soul of this country will pour out in civil disobedience, race riots, dissention, and insurrection. The sleepy protected by two orceans americans will finally wake up from their illusions and dreams about stability MAYBR coming or LETS HOPE it comes, oir maybe LKets give him a chance.
\GIVE HIM A CHANCE? 18 executive orders like Louie VIII– and in just 6 months running like a dog in heat he is dismantling this country–
HOW CAN WE ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE- the media is constantly exhorting the pablem brains to allow themselves to be media brainwashed- what is going to be left here–are we to be a country of fast food and T-shirts? This smooth speaking appeaser has tiny little balls, not suited to run a great country –a country very ill after Viet Nam and Jane Fonda traitor brains spitting oin returning vets. Clinton and his dragon lady political oppotunist without portfolio spit on the military.
BUsh crushed it, over extended it, and announced to our enemies ( Obama’s friends?) our limits and problems. Now we have this BUM addressing the likes of KGB PUTIN and puffs of smike Netanyanhu like he has their brains or abilities. They laugh at him and thus laugh at us for putting this BUM in. How stupid is america they stay to allow this community organizer with no record and no experience to run the most powerful country in the world.
The sharks and orcas are taking big bites out of this whale–domestically and internationally and the whales is bleeding critically–the great majestic blue what of the USA is under attack from within and without as a result of this BUM.
Do yourselves a favor and think Founding Fathers–they were all right wing extremists–had to be to cast ofF the british yoke– they had big balls-
they were prepared to sacrifice for change–its a battle, and blood was shed.
WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO?
Let this bastard fraud totally destroy us and all that is meaningful in tradition and constitutional law-?-this so called affirmative action constitutional professor spits on the constitution= and I will tell you another thing– they are spitting on white people–sotomeyer is one case and Holder and his rascist remark is another and both obama and his wife are from the afro centric I hate and blame whitey for everything – black supremist school of thought– withiun one square block in chicago is Obama’s house, Risko’s hous, ayer’s house and farrakhan’s house and for 20 years he attends Wrights I hate and blame whitey for everything so called church and then denies any involvment innhis rhetoric rascist disgusting rhetoric now once again emboldened to spew anti semitic vitriol.
THERE ARE A 1000 REASONS TO THROW THEM OUT OF OFFICE- THE WHOLE ROTTEN COMPLACENT FAT BUNCH TOP TO BOTTOM FROM BLOW JOB BARNEY FRANK– TO ESCAPE WITH $90,000,000 fANNIE mAE rAINES–STILL LAUGHING AT WE JERKS!! yES WE JERKS–WE ARE SLEEPY EYED JERKS DOCILEY WATCHING THEM RAPE OUR COUNTRY, RUIN OUR COUNTRY, STEP ON INSULT AND SPIT ON ITS PEOPLE.
WAKE UP AMERICA, CAN’T WAIT TO 2010- BE ALL OVER BY THEN WITH THIS PUTRID NEW WORLD ORDER CRAP. LETS TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK AND THROW THIS DAMNED BUM OUT WITH HIS SUCK ASS ENTOURAGE.
bECAUSE IF WE DO NOT ACT SOON HE WILL PROBNABLY PUT BILL AYERS IN CHARGE OR REEDUCATING YOU ALONG WITH ABOUT 60,000 COMMIE PROFERSSORS CLAIMING TO BE MODERATE LIBERAL–
THE WATER IS BEING POISONED WITH EVERY BREATH THIS MAN TAKES–HE IS ON A ROLL AND HE IS HIGH ON THIS AND HE IS LAUGHING AT YOU–LAUGHING AT HOW STUPID YOU ALL ARE IN LETTING THIS CONTINUE. wHY IN HELL DO YOU THINK HE IS MOVING WITH SUCH VELOCITY– HE SIMPLY CANNOT BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE ALLOWING HIM TO GET AWAY WITH THIS HORSE MANURE HE IS FEEDING US.
NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON? IT’S TREASON!!!
CRY FOR OUR BELOVED COUNTRY BEFORE IT DROWNS IN A POOL OF TEARS AND TRAGIC REGRET–FOR THEN IT WILL BE ALL TOO LATE. ALL TO LATE.
MP
PS- alan keyes would be a magnificent president with the brains, drive and eloquence of the founding fathers–this man speaks pearls without a prompter– perhaps a new Nationalist Party– perhaps it is time for it as our philiosophical base and platform for repair–rather than change- our platform for the restoration of america for God’s sake.
June 20th, 2009 @ 10:24 am
That’s a great idea…but maybe hundreds of thousands of like minded people should be walking behind them.
I have heard rumors about an “armed march” on Washington, but would like to throw out a thought. If those people are armed w/ guns, it could get nasty. I have thought about something that could be done before that which would carry almost as much weight. What about each person carrying a broom instead…and have plenty of advance notice that the broom represents the gun that person could be carrying???
June 20th, 2009 @ 10:41 am
Great idea. I will bring the hot tar & feathers.
June 20th, 2009 @ 11:16 am
All,
Just located this article on Savage Nation. posted so doesn’t disappear.
WND OBAMA WATCH CENTRAL
Obama tied to Ayers … at age 11
Anti-military congregation attended as boy in Hawaii linked to radical’s organization
Posted: June 19, 2009
1:00 am Eastern
By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
First Unitarian Church of Honolulu
JERUSALEM – The Hawaii church where President Obama attended Sunday school as a boy has “always” been involved in political activism, the church’s pastor told WND in an interview.
“The Sunday school has always been and to this day still is involved in political activism,” said Rev. Mike Young, pastor of First Unitarian Church of Honolulu.
“We are involved in community organizing, helping churches in foreign countries, social justice issues, like making sure inmates get dinner,” said Young, speaking from Hawaii.
While Obama’s membership as an adult in the controversial Trinity United Church of Christ has received widespread media attention, almost nothing has been reported about his Sunday school attendance at First Unitarian, a far-left activist church that may have helped provide the president’s initial political education.
First Unitarian, a member of the Unitarian Universalist denomination, served as a sanctuary for draft dodgers and was strongly tied to the Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS, during the time Weatherman radical Bill Ayers was a leader in that organization. The Weathermen was an offshoot of the SDS.
Andrew Walden, publisher and editor of the Hawaii Free Press, dug up newspaper clippings from that period as well as print editions of “The Roach,” an SDS publication describing the group’s draft-dodging activism, including at the Unitarian church.
The SDS connection to Obama’s boyhood church is instrumental. During last year’s presidential campaign, Obama notoriously brushed off Ayers’ extremism as irrelevant since most of the Weathermen radical’s violent actions were carried out when Obama was a kid.
“This is a guy (Ayers) who lives in my neighborhood … the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago – when I was 8 years old – somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense,” Obama said in 2008.
Obama, however, likely learned values during his Sunday school days at the First Unitarian in the early 1970s.
After living from age 7 with his mother and step-father in Indonesia, where he was enrolled as a Muslim in public schools, Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 11 in 1971 to reside with his grandmother. His mother moved back to Hawaii in 1972 and stayed there until 1977, when she relocated again to Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim nation.
In his autobiography, “Dreams from My Father,” Obama recounts on page 17 moving to Hawaii and being enrolled in the Unitarian church.
When Obama’s maternal grandmother died last November, the memorial service, attended by the then-presidential candidate, was held in Honolulu’s Unitarian church.
According to an account in the Tampa Tribune, when Young reminded Obama at his grandmother’s memorial service that he attended the church’s Sunday school as a kid, Obama’s eyes lit up, and he turned to his wife, Michelle, and said, “‘Hey, that’s right. This is where I went to Sunday school.”
Young recounted to WND yesterday how the bathrooms for the main sanctuary were in full use after the service. Obama said he had to use the restroom, so Young directed Obama and his secret service detail to instead utilize the upper floor facilities, located at the church’s Sunday school operations.
“When he returned,” Young recalled, “I asked Obama if the Sunday school looked familiar. He said it didn’t, but I explained to him we recently remodeled.”
Notorious hotbed of far-leftist activism
Young came to the Honolulu church in 1995. He claimed to WND the church and Sunday school is non-partisan. However, just as it is now, during Obama’s attendance in the early 1970s, the church was a hotbed of far-leftist activism.
The church notoriously granted sanctuary to U.S. military deserters recruited by the SDS. The deserters’ exploits at the church were front page news for months in 1969, including articles in the New York Times.
Eventually, the police raided the church as well as another nearby Honolulu worship house, Crossroads, that was also providing sanctuary to draft dodgers.
Aside from its early connections to the SDS, Young confirmed to WND his church was instrumental in founding the League of Women Voters and activating a local branch of the American Civil Liberties Union.
The church is still active is liberal politics. It reportedly helped to launch the Save Our Constitution effort to fight the constitutional amendment on same-sex marriages. In 2003, the church sponsored a Death with Dignity poll that collected a 72 percent response in favor of end-of-life legislation.
In February 2003, the Unitarian church celebrated its 50th anniversary at a ceremony replete with “Liberal Religion for 50 Years” T-shirts.
The Honolulu Star-Bulletin reported bumper stickers on cars outside the church gave insight into its members’ beliefs: “No War.” “If you want peace, work for justice.” “An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.”
June 20th, 2009 @ 3:52 pm
As has been said else where, our military has done enough already, the burden of this task should not rest on there shoulders. May not be an exact quote but you get the drift. It is however true the UCMJ can provides sanctions for such activities, Mutiny comes to mind.
Personally, I see nothing less then a peaceful ‘Million Citizen March’ from the Halls of Congress to the White House to the Department of Justice before AG Holder and/or US Att. Phillips will take any sort of action. Only when they become aware of the support of ‘We the People’ and the Constitution out way their loyalty’s to their appointee will we see action on their part.
Every effort should be made to bring this about ASAP! We can rattle sabers at the gate but the keeper of the keys must open that gate!
G B
June 20th, 2009 @ 5:32 pm
A Major Legal Question!!!
From all signs, Mr. Obama is above our laws including the laws as stated in the United States Constitution?
Who qualifies to occupy the Office of the President of these United States is a Very Important Legal issue; at times such as this, the Officers of the Court all across this fine nation Must rise up and get this legal mess resolved; how sad that Doctor Orly Taitz, Esquire and a few other fine American Citizens and Lawyers are very much in the minority; well Under ONE PERCENT of the available attorneys.
Officers of the Court (lawyers) often advertise for law suits such as, Class Action, Work Related and Accident just to name a few but where are these same lawyers and the other lawyers when it comes to a major Constitution issue, a Criminal Law Issue?
If it turns out that Mr. Obama can prove that he is a “Natural Born American Citizen”, as required by Our Constitution, then and only then will his name be preceded by the title of “President”. If he is unable or chooses not to provide the required information then we must get on with Our Country’s business as written in the existing United States Constitution.
Only if the Lawyers are Not Able to keep our Nation fully engaged under the guidelines of Our Constitution then look to the Military.
June 20th, 2009 @ 5:53 pm
Pinsky, you are without a doubt absolutely, positively fabulous with words! (I just wish you’d be more careful about spelling them!)
Here is another thought, but maybe it’s too late for the Citizens’ Grand Jury– how about presenting indictments to all those in Congress and some federal judges who have violated The Constitution by sponsoring unconstitutional bills, making judicial decisions that violate The Constitution, or are guilty of gross malfeasance of office? Like Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi (her airplane extravagance) Schumer and Chris Dodd. Also, throw in those who are ready to give amnesty to ILLEGALS, like Kennedy, et al. Or propose or support bills to take away our right to bear arms? It’s time we did something besides sit and whine!
Pinsky is right…we need to either get rid of the whole arrogant bunch or at least them all know we are dedicated to ousting them.
Yes, a fund needs to be established for those who go to Washington.
June 20th, 2009 @ 6:39 pm
cookie says:
June 20, 2009 at 10:06 am
Tell New England,
coz it would get people killed and/or put in jail
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So? You speak like a true coward who prefers loss of freedom to liberty. No matter the costs.
In the end, you will not be able to escape the times. You had better declare which side of the violence you will serve and be willing to face the consequences. For there surely will be consequences. Just ask the many Canadians.
June 20th, 2009 @ 10:09 pm
Yes, Cookie, Soffitrat is right. No one will get killed. I was not picturing the retired military personnel being armed, although if they have a permit to carry and it’s legal for them to do so in Washington, DC, there should be no problem with it.
Are you saying that Obama has succeeded in making this nation into the communist gulag he relishes? That people demonstrating peacefully will get them put in jail? Should it?
I have also wondered why the military does not make an arrest of Congress and Obama and demand that hearings be held to determine his qualifications. They could try writing letters first, but it seems the time for that is past. Those officers in Washington who know but will do nothing about it are aiding and abetting the enemy, just as Walt Fitzpatrick says. They have become part of the political apparatus of the Usurper, which means they are the enemy, too.
I am aware of Oath Keepers. Perhaps they are the vehicle that could get this done. And I am more than willing to contribute to the cause to get it started.