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Thomas Elias, syndicated columnist, who writes for 39 different papers, published an interview with the AG candidate, Attorney Orly Taitz. Some of the statements were misquoted, some omitted. Interview deals primarily with the positive remarks by the 9th Circuit in relation to the ObamaForgeryGate cases

Posted on | February 24, 2014 | 3 Comments

Thomas D. Elias
California Focus

Back to: Opinion
February 24, 2014
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Appeal court comments encourage birthers

For years, those who claim President Barack Obama was born in Kenya or someplace other than the Hawaii hospital indicated on the birth certificate issued by that state’s officials have claimed their effort is neither political nor racist, but merely purist.

But now the woman who has carried the birther torch in more devoted fashion than anyone has revealed a political motive: She says she hopes a case now before the federal Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit will “influence the fall election and get more Republicans elected.”

Of course, the case now avidly pursued by Orly Taitz, the Orange County lawyer, dentist and real estate agent often called the “Birther Queen,” does not involve Obama directly.

But Taitz, planning a run for state attorney general, believes a wisecrack by one of three judges hearing it might cause other jurists to take her claims more seriously.

This case involves Peta Lindsay, the 2012 candidate of the national Party for Socialism and Liberation, who tried two years ago to get onto the California ballot as the candidate of the Peace and Freedom Party.

“But I am sure that if we ever have discovery and are able to prove that (President Obama’s) Social Security card, for example, is false, it would be bigger than Watergate and he would be forced to resign.”
Orly Taitz
Orange County lawyer, dentist and real estate agent

California Secretary of State Debra Bowen refused Lindsay a ballot slot because she was under — far under — the Constitutional minimum age for a president, 35. Lindsay was born in 1984.

Taitz told the judges that because Bowen scrutinized Lindsay’s candidacy enough to determine her age made her ineligible, Bowen should also have investigated whether Obama’s birth certificate, Social Security and draft cards were forgeries, as she and other birthers have claimed for more than five years.

Taitz argued that it was a violation of the 14th Amendment’s equal protection provisions for Bowen to investigate Lindsay and not the birther claims about Obama.

Bowen’s lawyers responded that Obama’s qualification was covered by the “political question doctrine,” because he was the nominee of a major party, rendering it unnecessary for her to check those claims.

Responded Alex Kozinski, a Ronald Reagan appointee to the appeals court and a noted judicial eccentric, “What if your party were to run a dog for president of the United States? Would the secretary of state be obligated to put a dog on the ballot, too?”

The three-judge panel, which also included Diarmuid O’Scannlain, another Reagan appointee and one of the Ninth Circuit’s most consistent conservatives, inquired of lawyers on the case what might have happened if the secretary of state were a birther.

Those comments encourage Taitz to believe her claims, previously tossed out of several federal courtrooms, may at last be taken seriously.

She hopes the Ninth Circuit panel will remand the Lindsay case to a lower court with an instruction for a legal discovery process investigating the forgery claims.

The timing of any ruling in the Lindsay case is uncertain.

Taitz does not believe such an investigation would cause Obama to be impeached or disqualified.

But she claimed “It will influence the fall election and it will discredit all the critics of us birthers.”

Of course, if the appeals panel were to make such a ruling, a request for a rehearing before an 11-member panel of Ninth Circuit judges sitting en banc would quickly ensue and be granted.

Any such panel of the famously liberal court would be highly likely to reverse a pro-birther ruling.

Not that Taitz believes any of this could lead to a reversal of the Electoral College vote, even though she has named that group, which only exists for a day or so every four years, as a defendant in some of her lawsuits.

“But I am sure that if we ever have discovery and are able to prove that his Social Security card, for example, is false, it would be bigger than Watergate and he would be forced to resign,” Taitz said.

“Yes, (Vice President) Joe Biden would then become president and immediately pardon Obama, like Gerald Ford did for Richard Nixon. But that would also guarantee the next president would be a Republican.”

All of which means a few possibly idle remarks by a couple of appellate judges have exposed birthers as purely political and partisan, while also raising their hopes to new highs.

Email Thomas Elias at tdelias@aol.com.

Comments

3 Responses to “Thomas Elias, syndicated columnist, who writes for 39 different papers, published an interview with the AG candidate, Attorney Orly Taitz. Some of the statements were misquoted, some omitted. Interview deals primarily with the positive remarks by the 9th Circuit in relation to the ObamaForgeryGate cases”

  1. Veritas
    February 25th, 2014 @ 3:49 am

    The Obama administration bullying television channels which are running a PSO by Julie Boonstra, a cancer patient whose insurance was cancelled by Obamacare. Judge Napolitano calls it a “new low” and sounding like “Vladimir Putin in Russia more than the President of the United States.”

  2. Harry
    February 25th, 2014 @ 4:53 am

    if Mr-Elias would do a little investigation he just might find out that the birthers are not as crazy as the press makes them out to be- it is easier to smear them a nut-jobs than to checkout the mountain of evidence of government corruption and fraud against the American people- and if what the birthers say is true then the American news-media is complicit in this massive coverup- we who HAVE investigate realize that the list of lies goes on for miles-

  3. Kevin J Lankford
    February 25th, 2014 @ 5:47 am

    Another long winded, empty, criticism of legitimate desire to expose truth.

    I have never understood why it is presumed biden would automatically be sworn in as president in the case of obama being finally prosecuted for the fraud he is, when he would have to be considered a co-conspirator along with a multitude of others.

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