NSA responds to FOIA request, does not deny that documents relating to missing MH 370 exist, but states that it is classified
Posted on | April 24, 2014 | 33 Comments
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Law offices of Orly Taitz
NSA responded to Freedom of Information request by Attorney Orly Taitz in relation to any and all documents relating to missing Malaysian Flight MH 370. It is believed that NSA has radio communications and radar data related to the flight in question.
Typically when the government does not have any records, it would respond to FOIA request attesting that there are no records in question, however this is not what happened in the case at hand. NSA did not deny existence of the documents, but stated that it is classified. (see document above) NSA provided an address where Taitz can forward an appeal to the NSA decision to keep all of the records classified.
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April 24th, 2014 @ 6:42 pm
A sealed document was given by “one or more foreign” governments (you can bet the USA gave them that document) to the Prime Minister of Malaysia – classified information detailing the whereabouts of that plane and likely that it was subject to fly-by-wire intercept. These sealed documents are not to be divulged to the public at large because it will be detrimental to commercial air transportation.
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/24/mh370solved/
“Had MH 370 crashed in the ocean, it would have left a huge, easily-visible debris field. Countries with satellite surveillance systems, and their partners, know exactly where the plane went. Boeing and its engine-manufacturer Rolls Royce also know, since planes and engines have GPS systems. (You can buy a GPS system for a little over $50 in the US; it would be naive to think a $320 million aircraft doesn’t have one.) Even the INMARSAT satellite “pings” that we have been told can only sweep a broad arc of possible locations could in reality be used to locate the aircraft with some precision, due to the fact that radio transmissions vary in signatures according to time of day, sunspots, and so on. The “hunt for the airliner” peddled to the mainstream media is clearly a charade.
So what are all of the major players – both in governments and the aircraft industry – working so hard to hide?
Matthias Chang, a barrister who served as Political Secretary to Malaysian Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir Mohamad, explained during an exclusive Truth Jihad Radio interview that only a remote-hijacking fly-by-wire scenario can explain the plane’s disappearance. Chang’s views were confirmed by Gene “Chip” Tatum, a former Special Forces Air Combat Controller and US Army special operations pilot who has carried out ultra-sensitive missions at the direct orders of US Presidents.
Chang says the Malaysian government has been given sealed evidence by one or more foreign governments concerning the fate of MH-370. As a condition of receiving that evidence, Malaysia is not allowed to divulge it.
Matthias Chang is familiar with the highest levels of power in Malaysia. He presumably has some idea of what is in the sealed evidence. But if he did know, he could not say it directly.”
April 25th, 2014 @ 1:53 am
https://www.chiptatum.com/index.php/articles/19-boeings-secret-patent
It is very curious why Boeing should hold a patent on technology that could mitigate hacking on telecommunication systems, if none of their planes could be taken over by a remote hacker…
April 25th, 2014 @ 1:55 am
https://www.chiptatum.com/index.php/articles/19-boeings-secret-patent
this is very curious…
April 25th, 2014 @ 5:29 am
SOLA 7.14 The U.S. Fascist Coup of 1933
https://youtu.be/L23gPMmjtVk
April 25th, 2014 @ 5:55 am
Tn the case at hand? And pray tell bitch, which plan is that?
April 25th, 2014 @ 11:59 am
I’m pretty sure you can sue the NSA now.
April 25th, 2014 @ 12:19 pm
I’m sure CHINA and RUSSIA are blackmailing Barry Soetorah.
China takes over a Japanese ship.
Russia invading Ukraine and who knows whats next…China and Russia in the USSA..Hmm..
Russian fighter jets and submarines monitoring the coastal waters in FL.
Barry Soetorah is just going thru the motions to say,” Stop it.. I will put you on timeout one more time.. Putin..get down from that missile. Stop.. Dont you go near that missile. Putin… This is the 11th time on timeout.. Stop it..” “You hear me Putin..Get back here…Putin…”
“Moochelle I finally got Putin to stop running around.. I believe these restrictions are having an affect. Our stepson Putin is just a wayward boy. He just needs guidance and love and world peace.”
“Putin..Dont you cross that Red line again.. You hear me.. Putin. Get back here… Putin…
No more toy soldiers for you this year..Putin..
April 25th, 2014 @ 1:25 pm
Only an eligible president can classify documents in the name of national security. An ineligible president cannot.
An ineligible president violates the Eligibility Clause of the U.S. Constitution when he takes the Oath of Office. From that point on, the ineligible president cannot use the rights and privileges afforded an eligible president to efficiently administer the administration of a functional and efficient government.
Sue the NSA. Tell them an ineligible president and his appointees cannot classify information to prevent exposure to an concerned citizen. You’re investigating the damage an ineligible president is doing to your country. He cannot prevent you from investigating all of his actions, even the actions he purports to be doing in the name of national security.
April 25th, 2014 @ 1:39 pm
I can sue NSA under FOIA, but I cannot trace this order to classify the docs to Obama.
April 25th, 2014 @ 2:09 pm
If you actually read what they said…they will not address the existence or non-existence of the documents, which means that if the docs don’t exist, there will still be no denial.
Sven is talking nonsense. The national security designation is not an order of the President.
April 25th, 2014 @ 2:25 pm
All part of the drug deal between Putin and Scary Barry. Snowman’s got the goods on scary. Putin can do whatever he likes. Snowman gave Putin Scarry Barry’s dossier. Toast toast toast!
April 25th, 2014 @ 2:45 pm
Poster #6(66):
Grow up! You’re a mouthy dr., aren’t you?
I guess a Ph.d. stands for “Piled High and Deep!”
April 25th, 2014 @ 3:30 pm
this is true, however in order not to deal with appeals typically when they do not have docs, they will say that they do not have them
April 25th, 2014 @ 6:00 pm
Executive Order 13526, signed by Obama, gives authority for Obama’s appointees to neither confirm or deny the existence of document with respect to an FOIA request.
In fact, Obama has interpreted E.O. 13526 to include the denial of the existence of a document requested by an FOIA requester after the document has been made public. Yes, Obama and his appointees tell FOIA requesters a document doesn’t exist after it has been published online if it suits their needs.
No decisions by executive level officers are made without authorization from Obama. Obama is responsible for all decisions even if he didn’t know Orly filed an FOIA request.
April 26th, 2014 @ 6:51 am
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April 28th, 2014 @ 7:23 pm
Dr. Roy Moore in the above comment used the term “bitch”. He is a scumbag and a gutless piece of crap. The word misogynist comes to mind. I would love to give him a few minutes of close order drill with a baseball bat!
April 28th, 2014 @ 9:15 pm
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April 29th, 2014 @ 12:59 am
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May 6th, 2014 @ 8:00 am
The reason why this information has been classified is because a distress call was received from MH370 by a USN Intelligence listening station VTBU-Rayong in Thailand at U-Tapao.
The China Times carried a news story about this on March 8th:
http://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20140308003502-260401
which said:
另外，美國駐華大使館稱，淩晨2點43分美軍駐紮在泰國烏塔堡軍事基地曾監聽到一段馬來西亞航空公司MH370航班緊急呼叫的SOS信號，客機駕駛員呼叫稱機艙面臨解體，他們要迫降。目前駐泰美軍已向馬來西亞方面提供這段信號。
Translated:
“In addition, the U.S. Embassy said the 2:43 U.S. military bases stationed in Thailand U-Tapao SOS signal was listening to some of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 emergency call, said the aircraft cabin facing disintegration driver [pilot] call, they want a forced landing . U.S. troops are currently stationed in Thailand, Malaysia has been providing this signal.”
This suggests that the aircraft suffered a catastrophic depressurisation at 35,000ft but continued flying to the Indian Ocean with a fatally incapacitated crew.
It seems to me an over reaction to presume this was an act of terrorism when more likely it was an electrical fire in the cockpit.
Hope this helps?
Simon Gunson
New Zealand
May 6th, 2014 @ 8:24 am
this is a total nonsense. All of the evasive procedure starting with switching off of the transponder show an intent to fly the plane elsewhere and cover up the tracks. One have to be brain dead not to see it
May 6th, 2014 @ 5:01 pm
The transponder was not switched off at 17:21 UTC. IGARI is just before the boundary with Ho Chi Minh FIR. This means pilots were required to log in their ADS-C mode-S Transponder with Vietnam which naturally logged them off with Kuala Lumpur.
An ADS-B receiver at Kuala Terengganu on the east coast continued to receive MH370 signals until 17:27 UTC indicating MH370 flew east from IGARI to BITOD on 040 degrees where it should have turned north via route L637 to Tan Son Nhut (“TSN”). BITOD is 07.15N, 104.07E.
Rather unusually however it flew 10nm past BITOD towards Con Son Island where there is a VOR radio beacon.
At 17:25 UTC a Japan Airlines Boeing 777 took off from Ho Chi Minh bound for Narita. Once airborne the captain of JAL750 spoke with MH370’s co-pilot just after 17:30 UTC. Then MH088 also flying north ahead of MH370 spoke with the lost airliner. It is that conversation which VTBU Rayong appears to have heard.
There was an explosion detected by seismic sensors on the seabed off Vietnam 15 minutes after last voice contact (17:19 UTC). This was not an earthquake as there was only a P-wave with no S-wave. Explosions in the air can be detected underwater.
An oil rig worker Mike McKay on the oil rig Song Mercur spotted an aircraft on fire briefly 910-15 seconds) west of his rig. McKay said the flames went out but the aircraft continued flying.
If MH370 suffered depressurisation at 35,000ft then the lack of oxygen would extinguish any fire within the cabin.
If we accept MH370 ended up in the Indian Ocean, then it would indicate MH370 turned and flew south before the catastrophe struck.
Incidentally Malaysia’s claims that MH370 dropped to 5,000ft and turned west at IGARI are untrue. A Boeing 777’s airspeed below 10,000ft is limited to 250 knots.
The distance 267nm flown at 250kt would require 64 minutes to reach west of Penang where Malaysia says it saw an unidentified aircraft at 18:15 UTC
MH370 could not have reached Penang until at least 18:30 UTC flying beneath radar.
Malaysia’s military radar at Kuantan did not see MH370 fly back from IGARI which is within coverage range.
I hope this helps to add context?
May 6th, 2014 @ 5:09 pm
all of it is nonsense. The plane flew for at least 7 more hours. If there was an explosion, it would not fly for 7 more hours
May 6th, 2014 @ 6:23 pm
No, if a cabin fire melted the fuselage skin the resulting de-pressurisation would extinguish the fire through lack of oxygen. If the crew were fatally incapacitated then there is no reason why it could not have continued on autopilot y the way from BITOD the last known location it flew for another 5.9 hours to the Indian ocean at an average speed of just 305 knots.
May 8th, 2014 @ 2:10 am
Hi Orly,
Can I suggest you use a different approach in your next FOIA request, in particular, ask for information on the aircraft fire suppression bottle washed up on Baarah in the Maldives on the 25th March.
Cheers,
Rangi
May 9th, 2014 @ 2:41 pm
Hi again Orly,
I thought that I should perhaps explain my previous comment a bit more clearly.
The fire suppression bottle is the key evidence that will show the official narrative to be dishonest. In combination with eye witness reports, the bottle places the plane in the stretch of water between the Maldives and Diego Garcia. Thus, the search off the coast of Australia has been an elaborate diversion.
Because you are dealing with a coverup, you need to make an FOIA request where a refusal to answer is an answer in itself. If they refuse to answer a question about some harmless flotsam in the Indian Ocean, you know that you are on to something.
Cheers,
Rangi
May 9th, 2014 @ 2:55 pm
I do not believe the plane crashed in Maldives, as it flew for 7 more hours, which would place it well away from Maldives
May 10th, 2014 @ 4:08 am
Hi Orly,
The scenario I suggested above and flight time you are suggesting are quite consistent. Recall that the eyewitnesses in the Maldives said the plane was flying very low and they could make out some of its features. At such low altitudes the thickness of the air results in a major reduction in the plane’s possible speed.
Why not give the FOIA request a go? Would you prefer to accept the word of a Malaysian government minister who lied consistently to the world media over the word of a number of Maldivian witnesses including a community leader and the local teacher?
Cheers,
Rangi
May 10th, 2014 @ 6:35 am
a. I filed a FOIA and it was denied due to alleged classified status
b. there is zero evidence of the plane crashing at Maldives or crashing anywhere else for that matter
May 19th, 2014 @ 7:37 pm
Whichever scenario you do believe, or don’t accept Orly, I thank you for your efforts in trying to acquire information.
Since i am not a US citizen may I make an observation please?
Possibly the problem is that you have asked too broad a question and that if perhaps you asked a series of carefully defined questions, would that possibly be more tolerable to the NSA?
I would like to ask you since i can’t could you ask under the FOIA whether a distress call was received and if so for the release of that message?
We may differ in our opinions, but we both want the truth.
Thanks Orly
May 19th, 2014 @ 8:08 pm
you cannot ask questions in FOIA, you can ask for documents
May 17th, 2019 @ 5:00 am
thanks